r/witcher Aard Dec 06 '21 Silver 15 Helpful 13 Wholesome 10 I'll Drink to That 1

Shout out to this guy for his commitment Netflix TV series

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21 Silver Wholesome

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u/emiliothemightyduck Dec 07 '21

Came here to see if anyone said this. I was not disappointed.

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u/solicitorpenguin Dec 07 '21

"Kurva."

In it's original language

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u/Tennomusha Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

This is fresh in my mind because I've been replaying Kingdom Come Deliverence and a lot of people yell it in combat.

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u/filthypatheticsub Dec 07 '21

HENRY'S COME TO SEE US!!!

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u/Strider2126 Dec 07 '21

Jesus christ be praised!

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u/palpable_confusion Dec 07 '21

What can i do for you, sir knight

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u/FlavivsAetivs Team Roach Dec 07 '21

I love how that game has just somehow managed to penetrate every fantasy community when it's actually kind of obscure.

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u/koalasarentferfuckin Dec 07 '21

This is fresh in my mind because I'm often at a construction site and a lot of people yell it

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u/VRichardsen Northern Realms Dec 07 '21

I just started a few days ago. What an amazing game. "An inscription written on the wall with blood. Such a pity I don't know how to read".

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u/Mike_Facking_Jones Dec 07 '21

"Kurva."

In it's original language

Kurwa*

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u/LiveFreeDieNot Dec 07 '21

Kurva this dick in your mouth

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u/Garessta Dec 07 '21

"Based."

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u/Watchful1 Team Yennefer Dec 07 '21 Silver Helpful Timeless Beauty

“Well,” said the priestess finally, wiping her eye with the sleeve of her robe, “now go. May the Great Melitele protect you on your way, my dears. But the goddess has a great many things on her mind, so look after yourselves too. Take care of her, Yennefer. Keep her safe, like the apple of your eye.”

“I hope” – the magician smiled faintly – “that I’ll manage to keep her safer.”

Across the sky, towards Pontar Valley, flew flocks of crows, croaking loudly. Nenneke did not look at them.

“Take care,” she repeated. “Bad times are approaching. It might turn out to be true, what Ithlinne aep Aevenien knew, what she predicted. The Time of the Sword and Axe is approaching. The Time of Contempt and the Wolf’s Blizzard. Take care of her, Yennefer. Don’t let anyone harm her.”

“I’ll be back, Mother,” said Ciri, leaping into her saddle. “I’ll be back for sure! Soon!”

She did not know how very wrong she was.

From page 253 of my copy of Blood of Elves. Which is actually the last page of the text. Ciri has been living at the Temple of Melitele to get a "normal" education after living at Kaer Morhen. Yennefer arrived there and started teaching her magic, during which they bonded and became close friends. This passage is the two of them leaving the school for the wider world and is arguably the start of Ciri's adventures as a, mostly, adult.

No idea if the 253 number was just made up, but if it wasn't and one of the quotes there is being used in context, it says some interesting things about the story for season 2.

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u/Chit569 Dec 07 '21

Here is my pg. 253, Orbit First Trade Paperback Edition: October 2017

"...false name. Master Reince who, from a mile off, smells of Nilfgaardian chimney smoke. And of being a renegade sorcer. Isn't that right, Philipapa?"

The magician neither affirmed nor denied it. She remained silent, watching Dandelion closely and intently. The poet lowered his eyes and hawked hesitantly. He did not like such gazes.

Dandelion divided women - including magicians - into very likeable, likeable, unlikeable and very unlikable. The very likeable reacted to the proposition of being bedded with joyful acquiescence, the likeable with a happy smile. The unlikeable reacted unpredictably. The very unlikeable were counted by the troubadour to be those to whom the very thought of presenting such a proposition made his back go strangely cold and his knees shake.

Philippa Eilhart, although very attractive, was decidedly very unlikeable.

Apart from that, Philippa Eilhart was an important figure in the Council of Wizards, , and King Vizimir's trusted court magician. She was a very talented enchantress. Word had it that she was one of the few to have mastered the art of polymorphy. She looked thirty. In truth she was probably no less than three hundred years old.

Dijkstra, locking his chubby fingers together over his belly, twiddled his thumbs. Philippa remained silent. Ori Reuven coughed, sniffed and wriggled, constantly adjusting his generous toga. His toga resembled a professor's but did not look as if it had been presented by a senate. It looked more as if it had been found on a rubbish heap.

"Your witcher, however," suddenly snarled the spy, "underestimated Master Rience. He set a trap but - demonstrating a complete lack of common sense - banked...

Yours makes more sense. If it wasn't just a made up number.

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u/Ex-SyStema Dec 07 '21

I'm pretty sure she just threw out a random page number, just to illustrate the point she's making. I doubt she actually remembered the exact page he referenced. But that is a funny little detail, how it's like the last page of the book. Coincidence or Onto somthing?

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u/MoarSilverware Dec 07 '21

Great detective work!

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u/Recover-Upper Dec 07 '21

Now if we could only find out who poisoned old man Jenkins’ well!

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u/Putrid-Struggle1426 Dec 07 '21

I must have a different edition because that's not what is on page 253 of my book. That quote comes a page earlier. Maybe print size changes things?

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u/Armored_Violets Dec 07 '21

I remember reading this so many years ago and being absolutely heartbroken by that last line. Poor Ciri...

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u/Prime157 Dec 07 '21

This might be a lot to ask, but...

Are the books translated well?

I've been so fucking upset with translated text (here's looking at Netflix subs, especially) in a lot of media lately, and I've been worried about picking up the books. I've loved the games and the show, but I'm just worried the translations will be... Off?

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u/Kyoj1n Dec 07 '21

They're fine. Not absolutely amazing writing but without being fluent in Polish it'd be hard to tell how good they are.

You can find fan translations of some of them out there as well. Not sure of their quality, though.

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u/Prime157 Dec 07 '21

Thank you for your response. It's what I thought; I'm left worried that my overly picky asshole will be too critical.

Cheers.

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u/ChrispyCaspa Dec 12 '21

You should try reading with your eyes instead of your asshole. They might be less critical.

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u/Prime157 Dec 13 '21

Do you feel better?

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u/ChrispyCaspa Dec 13 '21

Just trying to be funny lmao

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u/Prime157 Dec 13 '21

I'm glad you feel better.

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u/Wasepp Dec 07 '21

As someone who is currently reading the books, you should really have a spoiler tag on this.

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u/grillarinobacon Dec 25 '21

Jar jar Binks saves Harry.

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u/SpookyScarySavior Team Yennefer Dec 06 '21

That’s what you get when you hire a Witcher nerd to play geralt! We know our stuff

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u/Mike_Mang_19 Dec 07 '21

To think Henry had to fight to get the role.

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u/zombizle1 Dec 07 '21

Its called action role playing

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u/okcputa Dec 07 '21

He had to kill every other LARPer to get it.

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u/Horskr Dec 07 '21

That's why you stay superman jacked for every future role. If it comes to it, they must be destroyed.

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u/bigheyzeus Nilfgaard Dec 07 '21

Let's not forget he's also a great Sherlock

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u/hiddenflames5462 Dec 07 '21

Henry Cavill decapitated 375 competitors to become Geralt. Shows no remorse.

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u/zveroshka Dec 07 '21

I mean honestly I never saw him as Geralt. Even after it was announced I was very skeptical if he could pull it off. Wondered if the studio just picked a big name because Holywood loves that shit. But nope, guy proved my worries entirely wrong. Kudos to him.

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u/PGHThrows420 Dec 07 '21

I’m curious, what exactly made you so skeptical?

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u/Curious_Exploder Dec 07 '21

(I didn't have an opinion, I wasn't a fan of The Witcher before the show) I think there are different reasons people were skeptical, but one of them seems to be: insanely attractive people are generally perceived as not nerds or not worthy of being nerds, so there's no way he cares enough about being faithful to the source material. He's a "beefcake" bimbo type. I wouldn't be surprised that most people who had this opinion saw him in things, not Superman.

To be fair to people who stereotyped him this way, most people quickly changed their opinion of him. I don't think it's surprising that a common narrative when talking about him is his remarkable intelligence.

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u/fml87 Dec 07 '21

I thought it was pretty well known that he almost missed being Superman because he was raiding in WoW. Dude is a huge nerd.

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u/InconsistentMinis Dec 07 '21

Cavill was also on Graham Norton this weekend talking about how much he loves painting and playing Warhammer. Guy is just a big, lovable, extremely jacked nerd.

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u/lydocia Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Interviewer: "How did you get so buff while also playing video games?"

Cavill: "I play Dark Souls and do a pushup every time I die."

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u/ag987654321 Dec 07 '21

No wonder he’s so buff

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u/Dyspooria Dec 07 '21

I'm dying

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u/lydocia Dec 07 '21

Then do a pushup.

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u/baconnaire Dec 07 '21

There's a video floating around of him building a PC as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

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u/HUNAcean Quen Dec 07 '21

I think this, the fact that most people are very used to CDPR's geralt and the fact that Geralt is supposed to be kinda ugly and scary while Henry is a handsome and wholesome egg.

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u/ChakaZG Team Roach Dec 07 '21

This, yeah. I mean, taste is a very subjective subject, but I thought even Witcher 3's Geralt was already way too handsome for the "you're big and ugly" comments, and his face is a fair bit more gruff and mature than Cavill's. Cavill's is like, I'm a guy and I'm not gay, but I want to apply cream to his face and massage his shoulders. 😋

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u/mjac1090 Dec 07 '21

insanely attractive people are generally perceived as not nerds or not worthy of being nerds, so there's no way he cares enough about being faithful to the source material

I've always thought this logic was ridiculous. He doesn't have ot be a nerd to care to be faithful to the source material, just a good actor. On top of that, the people who complain they grew up being stereotyped as nerds really love to stereotype ever other fuckign person on th eplanet, don't they? Btw, I'm not saying you do that yourself just that it's way too common and extremely hypocritical.

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u/Beepulons Dec 07 '21

Personally, when I first saw the trailers, I didn't feel like he actually seemed like Geralt, you know? Like, to me, it felt like a big Witcher fan using his name and resources to get the role, over the actors who'd be better at it.

Then I saw him actually play Geralt and all of my worries were alleviated. I was completely wrong in every way. That man is Geralt of Rivia.

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u/Coltor_L Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

He looked like a jarhead as Superman.

Edit: Because someone took issue with this, I just mean he looked very groomed (military precision grooming)! My Geralt is a grizzly man that looks like a mutant. If I saw Henry walking about looking like he did in Superman I’d think he’s either a Marine or a Mormon!

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u/Leifbron Dec 07 '21

This is the only good "Hire Fans" comment

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u/lilobrother Milva Dec 07 '21

Someone had to do it and it’s clearly not the writers

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u/DTF69witU Dec 07 '21

They should have hired writers and showrunners with the same enthusiasm.

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u/The84thWolf Dec 06 '21

This guy is like David Tenant when he played Dr Who

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u/seoress Monsters Dec 07 '21

Or Ian McKellen playing Gandalf

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u/TrungusMcTungus Dec 07 '21

Or Sir Christopher Lee playing Saruman.

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u/LordCharco_iii Dec 07 '21

Tolkien gave him his blessing to play Gandalf, and I do think he could have done that, but read this passage from Two Towers regarding Saruman’s voice:

“Suddenly another voice spoke, low and melodious, its very sound an enchantment. Those who listened unwarily to that voice could seldom report the words that they heard; and if they did, they wondered, for little power remained in them. Mostly they remembered only that it was a delight to hear the voice speaking, all that it said seemed wise and reasonable, and desire awoke in them by swift agreement to seem wise themselves”

Christopher Lees voice. Tolkien is literally just describing Christopher Lees voice.

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u/Change4Betta Dec 07 '21

Damn dude, you convinced me. Have to read that in his wavering boisterousness

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u/drfakz Dec 07 '21

Or my dad going out for a pack of smokes

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u/Neurophant Dec 07 '21

“I don’t want to be your dad”

“Great, you already know your lines.”

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u/PhantomAlias Dec 07 '21

Great show.

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u/DAHFreedom Dec 07 '21

9/11 was pretty much the 9/11 of the falafel business

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21 edited 12d ago

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u/GreatBigJerk Dec 07 '21

But your dad will.

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u/Secretary_of_spaghet Dec 07 '21

Or Peter Capaldi! He even wrote a letter to the official Doctor Who fan club when he was a little boy asking to be made the president of it lmao

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u/EmotionalKirby Dec 07 '21

Has Cavill ever said he got into acting to play Geralt?

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u/geralt-bot Geralt Dec 07 '21

[grunts] I'll take my coin now. I need to get back to my horse.

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u/MolochHunter Dec 07 '21

I don't think we realise how lucky we are to have this guy play Geralt.

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Dec 07 '21

Netflix are lucky to have him because the show was a disaster in pretty much every other way, him and Joey Batey are just so good it carries the entire thing.

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u/VNG_Wkey Dec 07 '21

So we're just ignoring Anya Chalotra frequently being naked now? Ok

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u/NorwaySlim Dec 07 '21

Oh I certainly wasn't ignoring that.

"geralt, I'm currently composing a song about a pair of tits. Please don't interrupt."

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u/geralt-bot Geralt Dec 07 '21

If life could give me one blessing, it would be to take YOU off my hands.

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u/jaskier-bot Dandelion Dec 07 '21

Right. Uh... Right then 😔

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u/Cl4ymist3r Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I hear this be thrown around a lot. When I watched it back in Jan 2020, I only noticed a few inconsistencies between shots (such as Yennefer having purple eyes which would then revert to Anya’s brown in a wide shot; Vilgefortz being introduced near the end of the season with no prior establishment but he’s treated as if the audience already know who he is). But I never saw anything that warranted the criticism of it being a disaster. Can you explain please?

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u/TheLast_Centurion Dandelion Dec 07 '21

on its own it is fairly mediocre. As an adaptation it is a disaster of Eragon/GoT S8/Percy Jackson/Airbender kind of style and way.

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u/0ussel Dec 07 '21

I think S1 has some pacing issues, but I'm genuinely excited for S2 since the story should be more linear.

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u/hoppyandbitter Dec 07 '21

This is how I felt about it. The first half was horribly paced and felt low budget in comparison. In the second half, it really caught its stride. This really isn’t uncommon with tv shows - when a book is involved, we just have a metric to compare it against.

They’ve listened to a lot of fan feedback, which is apparent from the trailer. The music choice in the trailer does show the Netflix execs keep overcrowding the kitchen, but I’m still excited and trust the core creative team to deliver

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u/jesus_you_turn_me_on Dec 07 '21

They just need to stop filling up the show with their own made up crap, and stay much truer to the source material.

Lauren before season 1 "we want to stay faithful to the source material, but we cannot fit in everything because of the TV show format", it's fine that the show make small changes, yet proceeds to completely cut out major important and emotional plot points like Geralt and Ciris meeting because you spend precious minutes and episodes showing your made up garbage ideas like the Eels, Mousesack doppeltganger and WAY to much Aretuza?

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u/Dubnaught Dec 06 '21

Considering all the not true to the books/games stuff there is, imagine how bad it'd be without Cavill to safeguard the Witcher for us.

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u/PitifulKEK Dec 07 '21

They also had a polish director, consultant in s1 and promised theyd listen to him and let him direct. He got completely ignored and left with bad taste.

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u/TheLast_Centurion Dandelion Dec 07 '21

Award winning director that worked on shows like Game of Thrones. And he left.. imagine to push away someone like that.. what a true shame. Imagine if it has a popularity now, how well the show would have been received if it was even better if followed the books (or original stuff was at least good)

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u/sendcheese247 Dec 07 '21

And how much it must have bothered him to see some of the BS changes they made. Come on people that doppler plot and Cahir's completely butchered character, he's extremely nuanced and feels like a real person in the books, they just made him a generic baddie

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u/walruswes Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

I liked that Cahir in the books was kind of mysterious and probably just a random knight up until they brought in more details later. Just something scary Ciri remembers from the fall of cintra

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u/baby_rhino_ Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Your spoiler tags aren't working. Maybe because of the space in front of was.

Edit: spoiler test Edit 2: seems to be an issue with 3rd party apps. Works well on reddit site. My previous edit with no spaces works well on 3rd party, hence the comment. 😅

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u/walruswes Dec 07 '21

They appear to be working for me

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u/Szoreny Dec 07 '21

How bout that eel shit, the books just hand over something cool and funny with the school's failures becoming lawyers and the writers were like no we need something stupid here.

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u/sendcheese247 Dec 07 '21

Oh that was just aretuza trying to get some eel dick

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u/fairguinevere Dec 07 '21

Aren't they basically magical batteries? Or at least that was the vibe I got off the shows interpretation. Like, they're not powerful enough to strike out on their own but there's more power in them than the average person or living thing, so trapping them in a form where they can't escape allows you to siphon off them freely.

I could be reading too far into it lmao.

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u/henryuuk Dec 07 '21

That was definitely what they were in the show

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u/LOOKaGorilla Dec 07 '21

I would agree with that assumption.

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u/Trextoasty Dec 07 '21

Just from the visual changes they've made in the previews we've seen it looks like they might have actually listened to our complaints about the wonky changes they made. I hope that this new season hits closer to that 'correct' feeling the adaptation needs.

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u/Josh_Butterballs Books 1st, Games 2nd Dec 07 '21

Well… the budget got higher (even tho s1 was very high already) but it looks like they didn’t listen that much. There’s interviews saying Yennefer goes through this arc where she “figures out who she is” or whatever. Apparently Dandelion also goes through one iirc. The only thing it seems that might be faithful Is Geralt being clever and verbose and that’s only because Henry is apparently making a huge push for Geralt to be closer to his book version. He even had to add a disclaimer tho when he said this in an interview that he will “Try to bring Geralt closer to book Geralt within the vision of what the show will allow, which I’m paraphrasing but you get the point.

Also, I think at this point they can’t really be all that faithful anymore. Damage has already been done and at this point doing a 180 on the characters and vibe of the show would be more jarring than anything. Usually big changes like in s1 also tend to snowball and lead to more changes. This is partly why I would rather have a show that is faithful to start (like Game of thrones) and then if it has to be unfaithful then sure whatever give me the later parts. Reason why is because I could at least watch the show and then stop before the bad stuff. With the other way around I have to watch the bad stuff before I get to the good stuff and even then that bad, unfaithful parts weigh down the good faithful later parts of the show.

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u/SimonShepherd Dec 07 '21

Or changing Vigo into a Northern traitor instead of being from Nilfgaard in the first place. And the weird eel stuff that must sound so cool and edgy in the writer's head.

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u/chrissquid1245 Dec 07 '21

It's not like it needs to be the exact same plot from the books/games, as long as it has a similar feel

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u/Gauss-Light Dec 07 '21

it was pretty bad regardless

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u/superspiffy Dec 07 '21

It's not like he writes the script or anything. Let's take a step back.

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u/Amphibionomus Dec 07 '21

Generally books and games don't translate well to film without modification and omissions, unfortunately. Literally filming with a book as script is virtually impossible.

Now I have no idea if this movie really strayed from some original story line, it's more a general observation.

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u/Josh_Butterballs Books 1st, Games 2nd Dec 08 '21

It strayed a lot. The thing is no one is asking for a 1:1 adaptation, but the changes to the plot, themes, characters, and relationships are so egregious at times it genuinely feels like imo they didn’t even bother.

The books themselves, ESPECIALLY the first two are probably one of these easiest book to show adaptations to ever fall into a director’s lap, relatively speaking.

Now briefly, one of the very first obstacles adaptations face is segmenting the book into episodes then changing and restructuring each segment to have a clear beginning, middle, and end for the viewer. Obviously this can be hard because a “normal” book is written in a way where the beginning, middle, and end span the entire book rather than in episodic segments.

So now, compared to other book adaptations, the Witcher (at least the first two books) should’ve been relatively speaking, one of the easiest books to adapt for a tv series. Coincidentally, the number of short stories per book is even about the same amount of episodes S1 had. This means each story is already formatted with a beginning, middle, and end. The challenge of segmenting the books is now essentially gone or minimized. So again, relatively speaking, this should’ve been a TV series on a silver platter - you have contained episodic stories, no gigantic battles, all chronologically following Geralt as a character (one even connected by an overarching thread of Geralt retelling his journey), no internal thoughts/monologuing (which directors HATE and thankfully the author doesn’t really do), not to mention they mostly play in pubs and rely on fairly simplistic storytelling (lots of dialogue, one Fight per story or so) - so pretty much all the confusing stuff (3 different viewpoints, multiple timelines, not to mention stuff like the magic system) is all invented for the show.

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u/Pathfinder5 Dec 06 '21

He may play a lot of action hero types but he always treats each project with so much passion/study. The actor Tom Brady. I 100% believe he can quote to certain pages at this point like that. We are very fortunate he is our Geralt <3

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u/sendcheese247 Dec 07 '21

He also reloads his arms like a badass

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u/Geralt_of_Nvidia Dec 07 '21

Oh yeah, Tom Brady is such an underrated actor!

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u/KalyterosAioni Dec 07 '21

I mentally read it as Tom Hardy at first such made much less sense lol

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u/odetowoe Dec 07 '21

Is this one joke I’m not getting? About Tom Brady?

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u/Beznia Dec 07 '21

Don't think it's a joke. They're saying he's the acting equivalent of Tom Brady. He is truly passionate about his career and goes above and beyond what is expected for someone in his position.

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u/_rusticles_ Dec 07 '21

Tom Brady is known for an insane work ethic which has kept him as the best quarterback of all time. He is regularly in the film room before anyone else has got in, studying every aspect of the opponent's game so he knows all their potential weeknesses. He also shares this with his teammates, both on offense and defence.

They were saying Cavill does the same with his roles, just immersing himself into the characters, lore and storylines so he can give the best portrayal, and help others do the same.

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u/pm_sweater_kittens Dec 07 '21

G.O.A.T. Reference

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u/mayorjimmy Dec 07 '21

The dude missed the initial call from his agent to tell him he got the role of Superman because he was busy playing WoW.

If that isn't nerd cred I dunno what is.

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u/Grimaldus29 Dec 07 '21

He's also a major Warhammer 40k nerd. The man is a treasure.

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u/Montezumawazzap Team Yennefer Dec 07 '21

He is an active user on that sub. At least , he was.

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u/Shawnessy Dec 07 '21

He probably still is, just stuff an unsuspecting account.

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u/scrumANDtonic Dec 07 '21

It’s you isn’t it?

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Dec 07 '21

Had to become a superstar to afford the hobby

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u/MrPadster Dec 07 '21

Rumor has it, he became an actor to finance his warhammer 40k

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u/malkjuice82 Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

That wasn't for the Witcher role

Edit: I'm an idiot and apparently can't read

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u/superspiffy Dec 07 '21

Read it again...

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u/malkjuice82 Dec 07 '21

This is embarrassing

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u/TooDanBad Dec 07 '21

I love both of you for this.

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u/turikk Dec 07 '21

A quote from the subreddit submitted to Twitter and screen capped and submitted to Reddit. Incredible.

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u/thesircuddles Dec 07 '21

I'm confused, isn't this just an official Tweet posted to one Witcher sub and crossposted to another? Where's a subreddit quote?

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u/patrafar_ Dec 07 '21

I’m a bit confused too, but if you look at the top, the name of the account that tweeted this is r/NetflixWitcher - so maybe this is just a Twitter account that reposts from that sub? That’s my best guess.

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u/GothamInGray Team Yennefer Dec 07 '21

Whatever else you think about Cavill, the dude's devoted to his roles, and it's a delight to see.

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u/themadas5hatter Dec 07 '21

Pam param, Pam Pam Param

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u/filthypatheticsub Dec 07 '21

Got their arses whipped like a Novigrad whore!

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u/alintros Team Roach Dec 06 '21

He's damn right. It feels like the writers have only read a summary of the story, not the books, and that they didnt like it that much.

They have very little understanding of the world and the characters. If it wasn't for Henry Cavill, this series would already be cancelled.

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u/Ayy_2_Brute Dec 07 '21

I'm a pretty big cynic when it comes to acting ability, and Cavill is far from a favourite of mine... but I fully agree. Season 1 could've been done for half the budget and thrown on the SyFy channel and there wouldn't have been a noticeable change in quality were it not for Cavill.

That's not to say he's a tremendous actor, I still think he's perfectly mediocre, but his commitment was very evident, and that's worth its weight in gold.

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u/alintros Team Roach Dec 07 '21

That's not to say he's a tremendous actor, I still think he's perfectly mediocre, but his commitment was very evident, and that's worth its weight in gold.

100%. He's not a great actor, but you can feel his passion and love for the character and the universe. He even tried to replicate Geralt's voice from the games (with pretty good results).

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u/Thepresocratic Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Felt that way watching actor interviews as well. All of the lead actresses didn’t seem to know anything about the series and cavil was the only one engaging with interviewers with any kind of passion or knowledge.

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u/MegamanX195 Dec 07 '21

To be fair, the actors are under no obligation to have much knowledge of what they're acting in. The writers, on the other hand, make us think that they haven't given the books a proper read, and that's inexcusable.

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u/Thepresocratic Dec 07 '21

Completely agree about the writers. But still disappointing that the actors don’t read a series that they will potentially build a career on.

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u/Skeeter_206 Dec 07 '21

I'm pretty sure I've read the books were required reading for all the actors. Cavil however has an actual interest in the source material and it shows.

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u/Jypahttii Dec 07 '21

I feel like a lot of people (myself included) thought it was gonna be the next GoT, but I guess Netflix didn't bother hiring writers/showrunners who knew the books inside out. Obviously GoT went out like a wet fart blowing out a candle, but GRRM put his faith in showrunners who had to prove to him that they were in probably the top 5% of people who knew the source material. And that, combined with the HBO budget made it insanely good for 7 seasons.

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u/Azrael11 Dec 07 '21

It was insanely good for four seasons, pretty good for two more, and then...whatever 7 and 8 were.

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u/HighPriestofShiloh Dec 07 '21

Whenever I rewatch I just stop at four. Season one might be my favorite. Any episode with long battles were my least favorite. Even the one on one fights were better when they were ten seconds. I feel like the budget fueled a desire for epic battles. Where as in season one the epic battles happened off screen. The dialogue between characters made the show and the quicker they got back to that the better.

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u/TheBiggestOfGs Dec 07 '21

I really liked the battle at the wall in season 4 (or was it 3). It felt so fucking gritty and real (as real as a giant ice wall, mammoths, and Giants can be).

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u/blackhawk619 Dec 07 '21

And what is more interesting is that GoT s1 to s5 had smaller budget than witcher s1. Which imo tell us that getting a good showrunner and good writers are more important than the budget.

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u/CCCPCCCPCCCP Dec 07 '21

it was insanely good for 1.2 seasons

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u/alintros Team Roach Dec 07 '21

The Witcher had a big advantage over GoT. Sapkowsky has already finished writing the books. So it's all already there. And they could have even improved certain things that Andrej left out or paid little attention to.

Unfortunately Netflix was in charge. Maybe we'll be luckier in 20 years.

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u/MegamanX195 Dec 07 '21

I think it's too much to expect a new Witcher TV series take even in a 20-year timespan, sadly. As bad as it was the first season got a lot of attention and made a lot of money.

Sure, theoretically people should be more wary of Season 2 by now, less hype in general as well, so it's not going to be as big of a bit as the first season. But even so, I believe this series is going to run for at least 3, maybe even 5 seasons. People are badly craving for GoT-like stuff and Season 2 is likely to be at least a bit better than Season 1, considering there's less stuff to screw up (here's to hoping).

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u/Skeeter_206 Dec 07 '21

If season 2 is considerably higher quality then the series can still become a major hit.

The trailer for season 2 makes the quality of what's on screen at least match the production cost. We'll see if the writing can improve as well.

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u/WiserStudent557 Books 1st, Games 2nd Dec 07 '21

I’m not the biggest fan of either Sapkowski or Martin but the disrespect done to both these men in their adaptations is wild to me.

When source material is suitably good, it is criminal to rewrite it in order to adapt it. You just format it for the screen. Screenwriting is less complicated, and the amount of effort that goes into having inferior writers do unnecessary work is literally insane.

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u/Trextoasty Dec 07 '21

It honestly comes across more as the writers wanted to make their own thing but got hired to write something else, so they just put their own ideas into the thing they're working on and producers don't really care enough to stop them as long as it gets them all money at the end of the day. There's very little adapting for the artistry.

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u/alintros Team Roach Dec 07 '21

At least in the case of The Witcher, we know that the writers are mediocre from the start. But in the case of the Martin story it's even worse. Because the GoT showrunners PROVED they are good, and did it well for years. And then they decided to just rush the show and ruin everything, even though Martin and HBO wanted more seasons. I understand that they were tired and burnt out, but then try to pass the job to others. DON'T RUIN IT.

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u/ThatDamnedRedneck Dec 07 '21

They were not tired or bunt out. They signed or a Star Wars trilogy and tried to rush the GoT ending so they could move on to that.

That trilogy was cancelled, for obvious reasons.

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u/j3rmz Dec 07 '21

Game of Thrones ended after season 5 and you can't convince me otherwise.

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u/Yodan Dec 07 '21

At least the writers didn't forget about a fleet of ships or magic crows or something else thats PTSD inducing. Or literally didn't read anything before filming.

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u/Yea_idonthavealife Dec 07 '21

"Geralt kinda forgot how to do swordfight"

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u/ListenItWillHear Vesemir Dec 07 '21

Cavill is a national global treasure

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u/Vylan18 Dec 07 '21

how good are the books?

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u/ArnachD Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Sooo good.

The audiobooks are fantastic aswell and there's a... twist, going into Blood of Elves. Honestly it made my jaw drop and made me start over again before going into second half of BoE, which gave me another jaw drop again. That's all I can say really without giving anything away

Start with The Last Wish>Sword of Destiny>Book 1(Blood of Elves)>and so forth.

I'm on book 3 now and I cant get enough of it. There is A TON of political elements so if that isn't for you then there are some books you can skip to get right to the action, personally I'd recommend reading it all since the world building is on another plane of existence and it all ties together so beautifully in the end

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u/juliaaguliaaa Dec 07 '21

I red blood of elves and I literally can’t think of what you are talking about hahaha

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u/Twokindsofpeople Dec 07 '21

Netflix's The Witcher has its problems, but over all it's pretty good. however, I'm 100% convinced that without Henry Cavil it would be a massive dog shit fire.

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u/JGib123 Dec 07 '21

If only the show runners had as much passion for the source material as they did about being woke then we might have had an amazing season instead what we got was pretty mediocre.

Completely different type of show but Arcane shows us that great world building can be done alongside great character development with the right script. Netflix higher ups should take note.

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u/jujubaoil Dec 07 '21

Huh... It's almost as if knowledge of the source material is a good thing and should guide the adaptation. I wonder why Lauren and her writers insist otherwise...

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u/mily_wiedzma Books 1st, Games 2nd Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

This is weird if you think aout how many changes the show still took from the books including scenes with Geralt

Or this comment is true and after Henry said something like this Hissrich was like "nay"

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u/cosmoboy Dec 06 '21

Well, I think the show runners and the director of the episode probably still have veto power. It's not like Henry is making this on his own.

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u/djk29a_ Dec 07 '21

Cavil probably should get writing credits by now it sounds like.

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u/Accomplished-Snow495 Dec 07 '21

The writing and dialogue were terrible

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u/Errribbb Dec 07 '21

This show could have been so good but the bad writing and mediocre acting really bring it down.

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u/AceofMandos Dec 07 '21

I wanna play Warhammer and drink a beer with Henry cavil. You hear me bro! Lol I heard you need a 40k bud. The deathwatch await.

In all seriousness he's cool as shit. And I'm glad this won't turn into the game of thrones style of fuckup.

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u/Absurd_Uncertainty Dec 07 '21

And! During long breaks from shooting due to covid he would just replay Witcher 3. Gotta love that as homework.

Agent calls: “whatcha doin Henry?” Geralt of Rivia himself: “research! Now leave me be and let me this sex this woman into a coma in peace!”

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u/MyUsernameIsMehh Dec 07 '21

Imagine how shitty it feels to be an actor who gets to play a part in a story they love & is knowledgeable of, only for the writers to butcher the story

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u/elite968 Dec 07 '21

He is the best guy for playing this role. He loves the world of the Witcher and is also a good actor.

Sadly in my opinion the series does no justice to this guy ( or the franchise as a whole)

I found season 1 quite mediocre and I don't have high hopes for season 2.

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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Dec 07 '21

He's just a big fucking nerd. Love it.

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u/abcdeezntz123 Dec 07 '21

What a dork, am I right guys? A 6'1, incredibly handsome and in better shape than half of the national sports league's roster dork.

man I wish I was Henry Cavill

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u/Ieatleadchips Dec 07 '21

he also collects and paints plastic space men. We don’t deserve this man

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u/sh4mmat Dec 07 '21

Custodes are more Earth men than your average space man though.

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u/Chris_Bryant Dec 07 '21

Henry is too good for this world.

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u/Xpelie25 Dec 07 '21

Now imagine if they used writers that were as passionate about the Witcher as Henry is.

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u/hotstickywaffle Dec 07 '21

It always blows my mind when people are doing a movie or show based on something and don't bother to consume any of the source material.

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u/lunatic4ever Dec 07 '21

Good. The show deserves better than the shit script, idiotic events and awful “big battle” at the end. Do it justice. I will never forget the scene where they kissed mid battle. I wanted to burn everything to ashes. Stupid fucking nonsense

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u/Tyrayentali Team Yennefer Dec 07 '21

Fun fact: There's no line on that page.

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u/Chit569 Dec 07 '21

Wrong, if you are being sincere.

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u/hoeraufist Team Yennefer Dec 07 '21

This is so beneficial to a series. Someone key to the project should know a lot about it and have the freedom to make those nice little changes.

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u/Cole9156 Dec 07 '21

If only Game of Thrones had a Henry

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u/Starfireaw11 Dec 07 '21

"Hmmmmm. Fuck."

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u/Zoomwafflez Dec 07 '21

Could we get some one like that over on the wheel of time set? I don't think anyone over there read the books

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u/jaspermoon4 Dec 07 '21

Didn’t this man almost miss his Superman offer because he was in raid in WoW …yeah this needs got commitment

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u/COL_PRIME_TIME Angoulême Dec 08 '21

If only they’d hire people like Henry for the writing team. Aka people who care to follow the plot right.

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u/attekulmala Dec 18 '21

I feel like Henry Cavill is the only reason im still waiting next seasons cause season 2 was so dissapointing

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u/ssj5godku Dec 21 '21

This dude is insanely perfect for this role!!! When I watched it the first time I was like this dude sounds just like Geralt from the games... then I found out he was this big Witcher fan and I was like it all makes since... like he is Geralt!!!

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u/Bill_Cutting- Dec 24 '21

That’s cool and all but this series is an absolute pile of shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Why does the actor know more about the source material than the writers…

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u/AncientSith Igni Dec 07 '21

We need more super fans when it comes to adaptations like this. It makes a big difference

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u/AhmadKarim_ Dec 07 '21

Even Henry himself knows that the writers didn’t read the books.

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u/Fraktal55 Dec 07 '21

"Witcher Bible" confused me. "Witcher encyclopedia" would've made a lot more sense.

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u/Civil_Sink6281 Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

Yeah, he really knows his Witcher universe ..Now, if only the actual showrunner and her writers knew it too...

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u/Echo_2015 Dec 06 '21

The writers be killing me.