r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 21 '21 Silver 4 Helpful 3 Wholesome 5 Hugz 2 All-Seeing Upvote 1

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u/sausageroll101 Oct 21 '21

I taught a senior business partner how to move an attachment from one email to another the other day.

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u/indecisivelypositive Oct 21 '21

Yup I got called to a directors office whose downloads where disappearing. I pulled it up immediately like fml really

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u/Character-Quiet-78 Oct 21 '21 Helpful Wholesome

Stop fuckin teachn them

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u/grenade25 Oct 21 '21

Bet you they are not taught any of it. They just keep asking millenials to do it for them.

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u/ex1stence Oct 21 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

“Open a PDF for a Boomer, you’ve informed him for a day. Teach a Boomer to open a PDF, you’ve informed him for a day because they’ll forget and you’ll be back in their office doing the exact same thing next week because old, stubborn, prideful Boomers are next to impossible to teach anything new.”

Ya know, that old saying.

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u/Rizo1981 Oct 21 '21

Meanwhile my 8 year old pup will learn to file your taxes if you have enough treats.

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u/2xOPisANidiot Oct 21 '21

Open a pdf for a boomer for a day, and you'll be blamed for breaking their computer the rest of their life.

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u/ChrunedMacaroon Oct 22 '21

This.

“Well everything was fine before you touched it!”

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u/Reset-Username Oct 22 '21

...while every space available on their desktop is covered in excel files.

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u/kenkanobi Oct 21 '21

Nor compensated for it

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u/PickScylla4ME Oct 21 '21

Not like they remember the next time. Aging makes it considerably hard to learn new skills.. i had to teach my boss how to copy and paste every time it was necessary to do so. He'd sit and retype whole ass paragraphs from a document to an email... made twice as much as me.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_LAYOUTS Oct 21 '21

Unless this your boss is a pensioner, that's no excuse. Computers have been commonplace in offices since the mid 80's and the norm since the mid 90's.

COMPUTERS HAVE BEEN THE NORM IN OFFICES FOR >30 YEARS.

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u/PickScylla4ME Oct 21 '21

Yeah. It was atrocious. Dude is 71 years old and refers computers as "confusers" . Practically unemployable at any modernized office

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u/xkcd-Hyphen-bot Oct 21 '21

Whole ass-paragraphs

xkcd: Hyphen


Beep boop, I'm a bot. - FAQ

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u/Deiafter Oct 21 '21

I had to show a project manager how to create a shortcut on his desktop.

in 2020, I had a sales guy tell me that copy paste was to slow, I almost went back to 1992 to get a newspaper to roll up and swat his nose like a dog that just shit in the house.

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u/igordogsockpuppet Oct 21 '21

Wait… you can do that‽

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u/ASSHOLEFUCKER3000 Oct 21 '21

Yeah dawg drag and drop

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u/McMorgatron69 Oct 21 '21

Thanks for the advice, assholefucker3000

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u/agentfelix Oct 21 '21

I fucking love reddit

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u/PurpleGunn Oct 21 '21

Name checks out.

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u/mosstrich Oct 21 '21

This doesn’t work if your company uses super out of date email systems, such as smartermail.

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u/mean_streets Oct 21 '21

But if I drop it will it go in the trash?

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u/mmonstr_muted Oct 21 '21

You won't believe how much of a technical issue that is to implement, in reality.

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u/RedditIsRealWack Oct 21 '21

Yeah, it's easy. You just print out the attachment, give it to your secretary, and ask them to scan it in and email it to whoever you want.

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u/GoldenAce17 Oct 21 '21

Where the FUCK did that symbol come from?

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u/igordogsockpuppet Oct 21 '21

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u/Chazmer87 Oct 21 '21

Title of your sex tape.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot Oct 21 '21

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u/LA_Commuter Oct 21 '21

Be careful, you might bring the interrobang gang around

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u/politepain Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

On Android you can get it from holding down the question mark. I'd assume iOS is the same

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u/stillnoupvotes Oct 21 '21

Unfortunately not on iPhones.

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u/LA_Commuter Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

No, op is lying or delusional.

You can't teach management or senior partners.

E: forgot a

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u/theforbidden_tum Oct 21 '21

Drag and drop, my dude.

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u/Ishmael128 Oct 21 '21

I had a director who likely earns at least 5x what I do complain about my use of auto numbering in lists, as they’d spent 45 minutes manually converting it plain text. He looked so upset when I said he could have just highlighted it, cut it and pasted it as plain text in 5s.

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u/mrsegraves Oct 21 '21

I blew someone's mind the other day by sending like 200 emails in 5 minutes. Wanna know my super duper secret trick? I used mail merge. That shit's been around longer than this person has been in her position. Has she been individually sending emails for years?!?!? Sure sounds like it!

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u/IMongoose Oct 21 '21

There are loads of well paying public service jobs where the person doing that job is completely incompetent at using a computer. Even though all they do is use a computer. I would not be surprised in the least if you told me that the person you are talking about only job was to send those emails, and if their icon moved they would be lost.

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u/Retlaw83 Oct 21 '21

My job is making different pieces of business software talk to each other.

Once I ran into a situation where I fixed everything but today's date automatically populating. The customer told me not to fix it so she has something to do.

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u/Plus3d6 Oct 21 '21

No you didn't. Teaching them implies they learned anything. You told them how to do it but they don't know how to do it now.

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u/MarcusOPolo Oct 21 '21

"I just don't understand computers" "I'll show you" "thanks but I'm probably not going to remember it" "well it's just-" "haha I'm not computer savvy so I'll probably ask you again to show me when I need to do it"

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u/cat_prophecy Oct 21 '21

"I'm not a computer person! hahahaha"

Anyone whose job relies on using computers should be punched in the face for saying that.

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u/erc80 Oct 21 '21

Especially when it’s a ducking manager.

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u/UnderSavingDinOfJest Oct 21 '21

This. This is the reason me and the the rest of the IT team have to drag ourselves to the office every morning, when we could be remote/on call (like we were before these people started coming back to the office).

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u/NeonPatrick Oct 21 '21

Scary how accurate this is.

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u/AllenWAwesome Oct 21 '21

I have spent 2 months explaining why I can't make a bar graph value appear in the chart they requested.

The target line is 200k, the bar value is 169. My 4k monitor at home doesn't even have the resolution to draw a bar that small. I hate my job sometimes. It's the people above me more often than not. The work is otherwise fine. I enjoy solving problems.

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u/TotallyNormalSquid Oct 21 '21

Use a logarithmic y scale, then scream as they ask you to explain it

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u/AllenWAwesome Oct 21 '21

Lol! Yeah, I email a screenshot of what that would look like. They asked me why the scale was off...

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u/JBHedgehog Oct 21 '21

Heaven forbid they actually close an email sub-folder.

They'll NEVER find that again and send in a P1 to boot.

I totally LOVE my older users.

/S

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u/The_Powerful_Tacos Oct 21 '21

I have users younger than me that pull that shit.

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u/cat_prophecy Oct 21 '21

There is definitely a bracket of 27-40 year olds who actually know how to use computers. Older people didn't grow up with them so never bothered to learn, and younger people grew up with them so it was just assumed that knew how to use them (they don't).

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u/erc80 Oct 21 '21

As someone who falls outside this bracket but is also this bracket, I’d just like to say the upper end of that range is closer to 45. 1975 is definitely the cutoff year though.

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u/SlowInsurance1616 Oct 21 '21

As someone born in 1971 who has worked in IT related things since 1993, people have been using computers since IBM machines helped the Germans with the Holocaust.

My mom used a room sized computer in her grad work in Astrophysics. It was actually much harder to do things in the past. You all just work with dummies.

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u/NeonPatrick Oct 21 '21

The basic spelling and grammar of senior management in my company is dreadful. Most of the emails received are barely coherent.

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u/AlmondCapuccino Oct 21 '21

I had a boss who didn't know where the share drive for our section was for months.

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u/Buffmin Oct 21 '21

My boss routinely calls me to spell words for him.

Think the last one was "confidential" the man has a computer lolol

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u/Justanobserver_ Oct 21 '21

I am a Gen X, I asked a girl I hired who was 23 what she knew about Power Point, she went to college and was a bartender before I hired her. She said "not much, but what do you need?". I needed a PP punched up so it didn't look like the same template I used in 1999. 10 page presentation, 2 hours later, 3D, drop down, multi layers, animation etc. I asked her how she did it, she said, "I watched a 15 minute youtube and then just played with it."

It looked like a presentation they would give you to try and sell a $3 million condo in South Beach, super slick. Would have taken me 2 days at least to get it close to what she did. Because of that, we gave her a raise and more tasks, it was a win win for both of us.

Young people are more resourceful than you think, just give them a shot at it.

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u/Own_Masterpiece_2459 Oct 21 '21

You are one of the few people with the humility AND wisdom to see that millennials are not worthless freeloaders, more power to you for positively encouraging her she seems pretty smart. (Who could’ve thought that YouTube could hold the answers to PowerPoint?) hahaha

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u/Own_Masterpiece_2459 Oct 21 '21

Seriously though I appreciate the positive encouragement from you. Most people I’m assuming your above 50 have disdain towards the younger generation. So thanks for being so nice

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u/CumulativeHazard Oct 21 '21

I’ve heard before that one of the most valuable skills younger people seem to have more often than older people is the ability to just go and find the answer they need on the internet. Just knowing where to look, how to phrase the search, even just thinking to google it in the first place. I’m sure plenty of older people who spend a lot of time with computers have that skill as well, but since millennials and gen Z grew up spending sooo much of their free time playing around on computers it’s almost a natural ability.

Like my mom (60) is one of the smartest people I know but really the only things she uses the computer for are work (basic MS programs and job specific software), Facebook, looking up directions, and Amazon. It just doesn’t occur to her to use the internet for some things. Like a year or two ago we were gonna have a crawfish boil but they needed a new pot and she texted me that she and my stepdad had gone to 3 stores so far but no one had one in stock. Ten minutes later I texted her like “well Walmart A has the pot but you’d have to go to this Home Depot for the burner thing, or if you want to drive a little farther Walmart B has both in stock on aisle 5” and problem solved.

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u/ChrunedMacaroon Oct 22 '21

They find the internet daunting and scary for some reason. I keep telling mine just look for what you need and don’t click on anything that sounds too good to be true but they just go “Eh, who needs this shit.”

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u/LemmeLaroo Oct 21 '21

When I think about the skills I've learned from YouTube VS the skills I've learned from Uni...

Makes me almost want to sign up for premium.

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u/l3rwn Oct 21 '21

I hope you pay her well lmao

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u/LastOneSergeant Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

I know an awful lot of broke boomers that are the grandparents of broke millennials.

America is a multi - generational financial relay race.

Today's kids will be born several laps behind.

And the grandkids of wealthy boomers will always maintain their lead.

Edit. Because if they couldn't they will buy enough media coverage to convince you to vote their way.

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u/RainbowReadee Oct 21 '21

While there may be some truth to what you’re saying, personally, my grandparents were wealthy and I’m broke af. It feels like it was easier to save money in past decades. I don’t know. I’m no expert. All I know is even when I get ahead, prices keep going up on everything from rent to food.. and it feels like I’m beating the tide back with a broomstick.

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u/WimpyZombie Oct 21 '21

My parents were just barely "pre-boomers" - born in 1943. Neither one of them graduated high school (mom got preg when she was 16. We definitely were the lower edge of the middle class and there were a few times when dad got laid off and the electric was shut off, but it constantly amazes me how they had 4 kids by the time they were 22 and were STILL able to buy a house.

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u/Flashmax305 Oct 21 '21

This is what’s wild to me too. Back then you could be a one income house, have kids, and still buy a house. Today, you have to be a dual income couple if you want to live anywhere that’s remotely desirable.

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u/Angryandalwayswrong Oct 21 '21

Remotely desirable? You need 5 years of income, no kids, and a partner to afford half of a down payment on a 500 square ft. Condo. Dinky rundown houses not even in the suburbs are a mil. Living near good work is absolutely fucked.

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u/Spoofy_the_hamster Oct 21 '21

It was so much easier to buy a house before credit scores existed.

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u/Spimp Oct 21 '21

That's the silent generation, it goes greatest Gen, silent Gen, baby boomers, genx, y, z

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u/Notsure107 Oct 21 '21

And all the products we buy are garbage. Toasters breaking, shoes falling apart. Some products are obvious tricks just to get you to buy it once, see it's garbage, then they go out of business all while selling enough to profit millions. Lawmakers are con-men that also trick voters into voting for a law that is supposed to fix something but they know damn well it won't. Just make shit worse. Like the plastic bag law for grocery stores in CA.

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u/LittleRedBarbecue Oct 21 '21

I’m on my fourth toaster, but my in-laws still have theirs that was a wedding present in 1975. They use it daily, too. I’d love to have high quality appliances, but even high priced items are shit now.

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u/CommonMilkweed Oct 21 '21

Breville's social media department found your comment 😑

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u/Interesting-Pop3277 Oct 21 '21

At least you have a toaster. I’ve just use a pan on the stove for over 12 years.

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u/WhatAHeavyLifeWeLive Oct 21 '21

At least you have a pan. I just wait for the sunlight and hold my bread to the window.

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u/gravityapple Oct 21 '21

Breville toaster oven. We’re on our second in 10 years, first was fine just the button was getting annoying

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u/TonyWrocks Oct 21 '21

This is the answer - Breville Toaster Oven.

It's not just that it won't break - it won't.

It's also that it cooks your food as well as, or even better than, a big oven does.

I can't upvote this comment enough.

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u/gravityapple Oct 21 '21

I love it. Spatchcock chicken, lasagna, prime rib… I make them all better in that thing

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u/jaguar879 Oct 21 '21

I’ve used the same breville daily since 2014.

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u/lloydisi Oct 21 '21

This is what we get for cheap foreign labor, cheap products and now a backlog of cheap products. But China is making bank..

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u/lloydisi Oct 21 '21

By China making bank i mean the Chinese communist party.

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u/LordArikson Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

I worked in a shop where we sold washing machines and stuff and i also delivered them to people. Often i would take the old machines and bring them to the recycling station for them, and there was a washing machine that was 50 years old and still worked. That blew my mind honestly, mine always broke after max. 5 years

The brand was eudora, a company from austria, but the company got sold and now they make machines just as everyone else.

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u/FunkyChewbacca Oct 21 '21

My ex had insanely wealthy grandparents, but he was broke because his family hoarded every penny like a dragon hoarding gold. When Granny died, he got nothing from the will.

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u/queensmol Oct 21 '21

My bf has a millionaire cardiologist for a dad and when I met him, he was living off ramen and canned food lol. His parents are separated so dad basically said "fuck you im out" and refused to pay for his college tuition until he realized that his son's debt would fall onto him. But get this, he paid for it thru loans that he took out in his son's name and put him 30k in debt after graduation.

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u/FunkyChewbacca Oct 21 '21

Yeah, I haven’t known a lot of rich people in my life, but truly richest people I’ve ever met were stingy as hell, like would step over their grandma’s body for a quarter.

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u/gualdhar Oct 21 '21

You're not wrong. Wages have been suppressed below inflation for decades. Your savings account makes negative money since the interest is under the inflation rate. The stock market is great - until volatility outside your control causes your portfolio to drop like a rock exactly when you need the money. And now housing prices are accelerating faster than they even did in 2019 (thanks pandemic).

This whole system is rigged against people trying to break into the middle class. And we're unironically told to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps.

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u/Tap_Z_or_R_Twice Oct 21 '21

I'm not trying to diminish your situation but the difference is that you will most likely have money left for you and your parents after they pass away.

When my grandma passed away her funeral costs were put on the rest of the remaining family because she didn't have anything to pass on and didn't have life insurance to cover it.

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u/meatball402 Oct 21 '21

I'm not trying to diminish your situation but the difference is that you will most likely have money left for you and your parents after they pass away.

Most of that money is going into nursing home and extended living corporations

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u/mazu74 Oct 21 '21

And they generally don’t pay their employees jack shit either.

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u/WeirdSysAdmin Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Worked for a CCRC. The current trend is building homes. The entry fee was roughly $500k for a 2BR duplex, plus about $3500/mo. Then you move into an apartment complex inside the care facility for the same monthly fee, but you have nurses visiting you for check ins. Eventually they move into the direct care rooms when necessary. Depending on what care you need, that can be upwards to $10k per month or more. We had some semi-famous people where I worked because it was one of the larger facilities but even then the money disappears quickly. There’s really not much left over. Retirement communities can easily drain a millionaire to Medicaid in under 10 years.

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u/jaguar879 Oct 21 '21

What happens when they get to medicaid? Do they get kicked out or does the facility just accept it at that point having pillaged everything else?

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u/WeirdSysAdmin Oct 21 '21

They take the Medicaid rate at that point. The financials are planned around that in attempts to only have a certain percentage on Medicaid at any time. The $500k entry fee is meant to offset that long-term. It’s refunded to next of kin depending on the situation. If you die within X years or you paid your way the entire time, that sort of thing. They also accepted referrals of patients starting on Medicaid based on certain criteria but it’s too easy to figure out where I worked if I mention it.

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u/baitnnswitch Oct 21 '21

Not if eldercare wipes it all out first.

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u/Paramisamigos Oct 21 '21

You think people like us out live our parents haha?!

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u/PrincessBblgum1 Oct 21 '21

There's a thought I hadn't thunk yet: if older generations are living longer and longer because of medical advances, they're burning through every dollar of their retirement funds etc so nothing is left to pass on to their descendants when they eventually pass, widening the gap between their lifetime wealth accumulated and their descendants' lifetime wealth.

Tldr: Pop-pop lives til he's 98, uses all his money up, and family members foot the bills when he dies and get nothing.

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u/Satanarchrist Oct 21 '21

that's exactly why retirement homes cost so much. Every dollar left to your kids is a dollar they don't get.

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u/gualdhar Oct 21 '21

My grandma lived to almost 100, and same with my great grandma. My mom is 63. Even if my parents somehow did manage to leave money behind after they pass I won't see it until after retirement age.

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u/willmiller82 Oct 21 '21

I can't remember the exact figure but people typically incur something like 90% of their life time medical costs in the last two or three years of their life.

The US medical system is built to bleed us all dry at the end of our lives.

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u/PrincessBblgum1 Oct 21 '21

It's extraordinary. And as a nurse, I can't tell you the number of times we kitchen sink 96 year olds because the family runs in screaming "do everything" and rescinds the person's DNR order or living will, even though all PopPop wanted was to pass away in peace at home in his warm, comfy bed. Not with a crushed sternum on a ventilator in a cold hospital room with a paper thin mattress. We keep people chugging along sometimes decades after they lost any meaningful quality of life.

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u/willmiller82 Oct 21 '21

That exact thing happened to my grand father. He had a DNR and coded after a surgery when they put a stint in his skull to release pressure from liquid building up around his brain. My aunt had a mental break down and somehow got the DNR rescinded.

After that my Grandfather was an invalid. Mentally, it was like he never fully awoke up from the anesthesia, what made him who he was years prior had been completely erased. A once proud man who lived his life with the utmost integrity was transformed into an infant who would kick and bite his wife when ever she tried to bathe or feed him and in the rare moments he was lucid he could barely string a few words together to form a sentence... yet his body subsisted for years.

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u/PrincessBblgum1 Oct 21 '21

It's horrible and heartbreaking to watch, and definitely when you have no choice but to be a part of it. I've had to break many ribs doing CPR on people who should have had their hand held instead, medicated for pain and surrounded by love.

I've also held the hands of my patients that are days, minutes, or hours from impending death. Their rooms are filled with cards, flowers, and soft music. Their families take turns crying, laughing, telling stories, and stroking their loved one's hair. It's sad but oh so beautiful. I cry every time I pronounce a comfort care death, but postmortem care is so much easier emotionally to process when the patient has had a good death than when I feel responsible for part of their pain and terrible passing.

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u/pwlife Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Yup, my husbands grandmother was a millionaire, she did not live extravagantly but had a nice nest egg and lived in the same home she purchased new in the 60's. She spent the last few years of her life in a home or paying for fulltime care in her home. She ran through her savings and upon her passing had very little other than her homes value as an asset. She outlived one of her kids and by the time she passed all her kids were retired.

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u/SalsaRice Oct 21 '21

Partially depends on how the retirement is setup. Ideally, you only ever pull out 4% a year, and growth basically refills it.

However..... many people don't have properly setup retirement (as it requires extra $$$, which is too much for many people), and they can't do this. They'd have to pull much more than 4% out per year, and they will drain it down to nothing.

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u/quoteFlairUpunquote Oct 21 '21

Sheeeeiiit, my grandparents were a mechanic and a librarian and maybe they were never "wealthy" but they had a three story home, a beach house, and regular international vacations.

But I also think that without their inheritance my parents would have had great difficulty paying off their own house. My parents house was not three stories and it was bought out on a road that hadn't yet been paved at the time. And they still must work into their late sixties, retirement will be meager.

Me? I'm honestly trying to emigrate out of the US because I can't even get my fucking teeth looked at. It's astonishing that my grandparents could "do everything right" as in just get basic jobs and save a decent amount but one generation later that already didn't work. I'm strangely resentful of my parents for working low paying blue collar jobs and getting an inheritance windfall to build their dream home, while they have become also resentful of me for refusing to go work my ass off just to afford to be broke at home.

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u/Dlaxation Oct 21 '21

I'm with you. I have wealthy aunts and uncles across my family but I don't ask for handouts and never will. All I want for my generation is access to the same opportunities the people before us had. I want my work and effort to have the same level of value as it did decades ago so I can have the buying power that comes with it.

They will tell us that it's too much to ask or that we're just entitled or lazy for wanting that but that's far from the truth.

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u/probably_not_serious Oct 21 '21

That’s because it was. The boomers basically got a free ride and are STILL benefiting. Giving a big bump to social security but still refusing to give a big bump to the minimum wage? That tells you all you need to know.

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u/DontTouchTheMasseuse Oct 21 '21

Well for starters things use to last for so long you didnt have to worry about it breaking ever. Everything was cheaper, houses, cars, grosseries, luxury.

Boomers made a good living off jobs that wouldnt support a single person.

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u/Caysman2005 Oct 21 '21

It feels like it was easier to save money in the past decades

It was, the original commenter acknowledged that fact when he stated

Today's kids will be born several laps behind.

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u/Fantastic-Alps4335 Oct 21 '21

It was easier to save when dollars were backed by gold and inflation was low.

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u/CallMeAnanda Oct 21 '21

How old are you? I feel like I’m starting to take off hitting my late 20’s. I also have the advantage of a long runway from my upper middle class background. You don’t just inherit your parents/grandparents class, but you get multiple saving throws to not drop vs. only one if you wanna climb.

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u/theYetiDidIt Oct 21 '21

Maybe one day you can convert Reddit karma into a paycheck.

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u/Heartdiseasekills Oct 21 '21

Never forget -- "We can't drill our way out of this" and WANTING gas prices to be high. I would ask, how much of YOUR labor am I entitled too?

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u/PM_me_ur_deepthroat Oct 21 '21

You are likely overestimating your grandparents wealth. Lots of ppl that have lots of nice things and little cash in the bank.

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u/deadbrokeman Oct 21 '21

Most accurate comment of the whole of Reddit.

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u/bigwetdog10k Oct 21 '21

50% of 60 year olds have less than $5,000 in savings. But according to reddit, they've spent their whole lives getting rich exploiting millennials.

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u/PinsToTheHeart Oct 21 '21

I've also been looking at housing prices vs median income adjusted for inflation and the difference between then and now isn't as astronomical as Reddit makes it seem.

Entry level jobs requiring $100k degrees is probably the biggest thing fucking people up imo.

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u/juanzy Oct 21 '21

Entry level jobs requiring $100k degrees is probably the biggest thing fucking people up imo.

This is where the Student Debt and cost of college becomes a systemic problem as well. Millennials/Zoomers are seeing a degree as the cost of admission to non-physical career-oriented jobs, then when those jobs that are requiring said degree are stagnating in pay or not hiring, told that they were the ones in the wrong for going to school. If all of a sudden anyone that couldn't afford college in cash stopped going, we'd see corporations cry-foul for not being able to find educated workers, kind of like they are right now with the Great Resignation then trying to post entry level jobs at "$15/hour, Masters Required."

INB4 I'm Bitter - I say this as someone that's had pretty good paying jobs since college, and been able to pay down my debt. It's possible to see the issues with a system that you haven't been negatively impacted by (although I don't like the amount I pay monthly on loans). But we shouldn't require the non-impacted to acknowledge something is a problem to give it credibility

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u/polymerkid Oct 21 '21

Yeah. My parents are boomers and I am technically a millennial. I grew up poor but in a stable way. I never went without what I needed but we had to skimp. I remember in elementary school having to to stay in the classroom with even poorer kids because none of us could afford the $10 to go on a field trip.

Any vacation I went on that we didn't drive to was funded by wealthier aunt's and uncles as I found out later in life. Apparently when my mother bought the house I grew up in, my uncle gave my mother the $$ to buy furniture for it.

I make 6 figures now and that is triple what either of my parents ever earned. I am disgusted with how much money MY family spends.... I would rather live much poorer and save / invest money. Not sure where this rant was going but I feel guilty about making money and not being cheap.

Edit: part of the reason I make so much money is because I was afraid of being poor, especially with a family to support so I worked my ass off...

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 29 '21

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u/TonyWrocks Oct 21 '21

There is an age element to generational wealth too.

When I was 22, I was broke and hopeless. I couldn't fathom how I was ever going to buy a house, much less feed myself and have a family. How would that happen on $10/hour - even full time? And I worked hard to get up to $10 - started at $3.35/hour.

Opportunities come during life and we grab them. That's happened fewer times to younger people.

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u/FluffyEggs89 Oct 21 '21

When I was 22, I was broke and hopeless

Exactly and when boomers were 22 they had a house and 3 kids already.

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u/A_Copyrighted_Name Oct 21 '21

That’s social conflict for you in a nutshell

Those in power (wealthy in this case) seek to remain in power at the cost of the poor

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u/elperroborrachotoo Oct 21 '21

Yeah, but we need to reinforce hate between generations, lest we start to tackle the real problems.

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u/cpdx82 Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

I had a coworker that applied for a high position. We're teachers in a non profit that serves areas with high poverty, trauma, and abuse. He had been with the company for 10 years. He is an amazing teacher and all around great guy, dad, and friend.

He got rejected and in the rejection not only did they spell his name wrong, THEY TOLD HIM HE NEEDS TO LEARN TO USE MS WORD MORE EFFECTIVELY.

A few of us that are close to him were also pissed. Now we have a Boomer that took the position he wanted and she sends emails typed entirely in French Gaudi font.

Edit: higher*

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u/LockAByeBaby Oct 21 '21

I'd not encountered French Gaudi font until you prompted me to check it out. Wow.

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u/cpdx82 Oct 21 '21

I am so sorry you had to experience that. I remember learning in Middle school (c. 2002) to not use those silly fonts (looking at you comic says and jokerman) in reports or professional things. So the fact that she sends work emails like that is beyond me.

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u/Supersnazz Oct 21 '21

I once double clicked a jpeg on someone's laptop and it opened in Acrobat reader.

Who the hell has Acrobat as their default jpeg viewer?

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u/iqdo Oct 21 '21

Probably someone who scanned a document as jpeg and tried to change it to pdf

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u/bmmesucks Oct 21 '21

They don’t know you can change the default viewer

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u/hb1290 Oct 21 '21

Acrobat is actually used for some scalable image formats like .eps

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u/SaltMineSpelunker Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Can’t tell you how many times I have been asked how to do something on a Google Doc, search for, then drop in like African space Jesus to save the day for someone that makes more in a month than I do in a year.

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u/darthvadercake Oct 21 '21

I work as a website designer, and am used to a lot of people not quite knowing how domain vs hosting vs the actual website works. That is fine, I had to learn too and don't mind helping and explaining. But one guy, a boomer, really took the cake:

Client: I already have a domain that I want to keep as my customers know it. If you host the new website, can I keep the domain?

Me: yes, I get that request all the time and it's not a problem. If you already own the domain, I just need to have info from your domain registrar, the company you bought it from. Like godaddy. If you can give me that I can point your domain to the new host.

C : okay do you have your browser open? This is the domain: www.clientsitename.co.uk

M : types it in ah thank you, so that is the domain we will be using

C : is that enough?

M : Sorry, what do you mean?

C : you have the domain now, do you have enough to point it to the new host?

M : No sorry sir, if I could change the website by simply using the url and nothing else, I would have already taken over amazon.com

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u/Brain-trust Oct 21 '21

A little over half the clients I work with have no idea who their registrar is. Getting the login information is even more rare. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to hunt down the guy that built the original website only to find out his one man web design agency went belly up years ago and he doesn’t have the login info either.

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u/darthvadercake Oct 21 '21

Oh yeah, that is super common. Usually if they had a professional build their current website I just ask to put me in touch with the previous guy, but as you said that is tricky if they stopped work. But if they bought it themselves I tend to list the popular ones, like 'are you with godaddy or one.com?' and sometimes they recognise the name at least

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u/Brain-trust Oct 21 '21

It’s. Always. Freaking. Godaddy. I don’t really mind if that’s their registrar but I always try to talk them into a different host.

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u/tablewood-ratbirth Oct 21 '21

RIGHT? Fuck godaddy. Even moving a domain from godaddy to aws was annoying because godaddy is so gd unintuitive and I just hate them. Everything about godaddy is just... ugh.

For anyone reading: if you’re ever buying a domain, please, never use godaddy.

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u/Amj161 Oct 21 '21

As someone that did buy a domain through GoDaddy, what's bad about them? I haven't messed around with it enough to run into issues yet

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u/darthvadercake Oct 22 '21

Don't worry, your domain itself will be fine. And cheap! Godaddy just has a super clunky and hard to use interface. So if you are a professional who has to check things, make changes, set up emails etc and deal with several domains then it becomes super annoying. But it all you want is a domain and one email and then not toch it for 5 years, you're probably fine. No reason to switch.

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u/Lundorff Oct 21 '21

Do a whois. Much faster than dealing with 97% of the clients.

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u/darthvadercake Oct 21 '21

I will still have to deal with the clients regardless though, without their login info or account information it's not like godaddy is just going to let me switch hosts because I asked them nicely. Has to come from the original owner.

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u/Lundorff Oct 21 '21

Certainly. I was merely referring to the "where is the domain registered" part.

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u/LA_Commuter Oct 21 '21

Use a Whois lookup site, they can usually find the registrar, call their customer service, escalate ticket to highest level w/written proof from bus owner, wash rinse repeat.

Used to do corporate mergers, it was always a pain in the ass, and always caused a delay, but at-least there was a way around the ceo/owners lack of IT knowledge.

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u/Brain-trust Oct 21 '21

Yea that’s pretty much what we ended up doing. It does cause a delay and is a pain in the ass.

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u/qwicmbl Oct 21 '21

Drives me insane everyday lol

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u/Whateverwoteva Oct 21 '21

And the ones that can are making 7 figures

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u/DucatiScrambleredEgg Oct 21 '21

Psssh why would they need to lol

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u/FreddieVandalay Oct 21 '21

So the people who make 8 figures can look down on someone and not be disgusted by how they’re dressed

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u/Cimb0m Oct 21 '21

Or join a video call. Ask me how I know 😐

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u/crochetawayhpff Oct 21 '21

I got our conference room setup to be super easy for anyone with a laptop to come in and use. 2 cables, that's it, plug in a USB and an HDMI and boom, your laptop is on the TV and the main camera is now your default for your Zoom call.

Ask me how many times I have to go in there and set people up?

If you said every single fucking time, you're right.

At this point, (because it's not just boomers) it's more the fact that people don't want to learn. They'd rather outsource that information to someone else.

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u/Surabar Oct 21 '21

Or can't figure out how to save an email attachment...

Or move an attachment from one email to another...

Or...

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u/No1Mystery Oct 21 '21

What do you mean an attachment from one email to another.

Please explain cause I’m not sure I’ve done this

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u/Surabar Oct 21 '21

Drag and drop, my dude.

Example: Boomer received an email with an attachment.

Wrote up an outgoing email to preserve confidentiality of their source.

I got called into the office to help them move the attachment from the incoming email to the outgoing email.

So I just... click the attachment, drag it from one email to the other, and release the mouse button.

If you want to complicate the process you can always use your desktop to temporarily hold files and perform the same operation. Say, if you received 10 emails with attachments you can use the desktop like a parking lot, then attach all 10 documents to your new, outgoing email.

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u/Wild117 Oct 21 '21

I never did the drag and drop.

Just assumed the last one. Save, the. Reattach.

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u/TinyMousePerson Oct 21 '21

You can straight up drag and drop an attachment from one email to another if you have them both open. Open new email, open old email, click and drag.

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u/ScrappleSandwiches Oct 21 '21

Paul Manafort has entered the chat

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u/qwicmbl Oct 21 '21

This is painfully accurate. The freaking director of marketing at my company doesn’t know how to forward an attachment. I want to bang my head against my computer.

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u/emleigh2277 Oct 21 '21

Don't forget the advice they want to dole out. I have to be real careful talking to my mum or she appoints herself to phone my kids and tell them what decisions they should make with their lives. Its very annoying.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 22 '21

I know, it should be you that gives them advice about their lives so that 10 or 15 years from now they will be able to blame you for all of their problems.

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u/BY_BAD_BY_BIGGA Oct 21 '21

sounds like your mom lost talking privileges to your children.

are you waiting on an inheritance?

cut her off bro

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u/187mphlazers Oct 21 '21

I can't relate. My parents both give amazing advice.

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u/Violet_Plum_Tea Oct 21 '21

Behind every exhausted Gen X professor are a dozen Gen Z /young Millennials who can't figure out how to submit their assignment as a PDF.

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u/SpookyWA Oct 21 '21

Yeah, it goes both ways, it's not a generational issue. There are just absurd amounts of uneducated people when it comes to basic computer proficiency. With the way technology is simplifying everything into closed ecosystems the problem is just getting worse too.

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u/Woolfus Oct 21 '21

This post also essentially argues that because they can do simple tasks on a computer that their older bosses can't, they deserve a higher salary. Which is dumb.

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u/DeadpoolMewtwo Oct 21 '21

It's more like: this person earns a salary that the majority of the US population could only dream of, and they are trusted enough to make major decisions that will affect the entire company, yet they can't be bothered to learn how to operate the most standard and ubiquitous office tool since the telephone

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u/PokToaster Oct 21 '21

I think this is when you grow up in a mobile first world. If your first and only device was your smartphone and not a desktop computer, you probably have a hard time dealing with files and folders

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u/h4ppy60lucky Oct 21 '21

Yah when I taught college, so many of the students were used to applications with pretty intuitive, easy UI.

When they couldn't figure out how something worked, they gave up. They did not, as I had learned, tinker around and try to figure it out anyway.

The learned helplessness was so annoying and took up so much time since I taught freshman. And teaching first semester freshman is a lot of teaching how to be a college student.

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u/msut77 Oct 21 '21

Older millennial are the sweetspot of tech users then

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u/gobigred5898 Oct 21 '21

Boomer here. Don't make 6 figures. Open, edit and create PDFs all day.

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u/OwlExMachina Oct 21 '21

Boomers, can't open PDF, make 6 figures.

Millennials, can open PDF, does not make 6 figures.

You, can open and edit PDF...

You see the correlation here, don't you?

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Oct 21 '21

Finally. The war against PDFs as the prophecy has foretold.

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u/killthecook Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Well there’s your problem. If you made others do these things for you instead of learning maybe you’d be reading this thread from your yacht or something

/s

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u/floatearther Oct 21 '21

Not all boomers.

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u/SpacecraftX Oct 21 '21

He is the messiah!

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u/ReadyIncident7 Oct 21 '21

My dad can barely open and email and takes about an hour to find the new moose license rules online.

But he was a millwright for 47 years and can rebuild or machine almost anything.

Different skillsets for different generations.

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u/joeyblazio Oct 21 '21

Behind every stereotype there is a moron.

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u/Box-Global Oct 21 '21

Boomers have no ability to communicate. It takes 8 emails for them to get a simple point across. I cant count the amount of times I have been handed a print out of an email that I have already been forwarded and responded too. Boomers, in general, are the most inefficient people I have ever worked with.

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u/Brookiekathy Oct 21 '21

Ugh I felt this one.

The MD of my old company would print out every email he received. Then pile them together on his desk. He'd wait until he had 20-30 that were relevant to me then bring them over and put them on my desk.

Half the time I'd need the attachments to deal with them but he deleted the email weeks ago and had no idea how to get it back, so I'd have to call the client (sometimes weeks later) to ask them to send me the email instead. Then other half of the time I had already dealt with it (with him in CC) and I'd find the email chain in the rest of his pile somewhere.

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u/AlmondCapuccino Oct 21 '21

I feel this one. I understand if you have to print a few things out every now and then. But I have more than once inherited an office with a box (slash boxes) full of printed out crap and was told that it was "important." Oh well, ok. A month or two into the job, I've got it, I go through the box. It's like the stupidest shit I've ever seen in my life. It's like receipts for clowns and shit. No wonder you didn't get that raise you quit over. You're an inefficient slob. Also, was not even a boomer!

If things are important, then they should be organized. If they're not organized and they're not legal documents, that's trash.

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u/rudeg1rl77 Oct 21 '21

Lead poisoning. They are all brain damaged from lead poisoning. Lead was in everything when they were younger. At least that's what I tell myself when I encounter them.

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u/Slackestofpandas Oct 21 '21

This idea that boomers are all minted is insane, like wealth inequality didn’t exist until millenials or something lol.

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u/placencianovio Oct 21 '21

Jesus Christ I’m so sick of this mischaracterization. I work my ass off making $65k 5 years from retirement supporting 2 late-20 somethings (end Millenials) who are trying to find jobs with sustainable wages. If I’m not Scrooge McDuck then I’m an idiot for making so little money. I work with, learn new tech and teach it to zennials every bloody day. Wtf people

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u/12hphlieger Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

For every person like you at my company there are 20 others who refuse to learn and use the technology necessary for their jobs. Mind you, I work in the law field, so it skews older, but its ridiculous how hostile most of my older coworkers are to learning even basic computing skills. This wastes an unbelievable amount of time and has held true for previous jobs in finance and logistics.

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u/Corpse666 Oct 21 '21

Do people know what a baby boomer actually is? At all? Definitely not any one of her ages parents lol every actual baby boomer is around 70 now because it refers to a boom in baby’s bed born after ww2 ended which was in the 40’s, just throwing it out there that maybe it’s time for a better phrase to use because this one is idiotic

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u/buzzwallard Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

The PDF was invented by a boomer.

I know a GenZ who doesn't know the difference between a PDF and a flat file. Heck you can get a roomful of Millenials who don't know the difference between java and javascript and who think 'binary' is all about sex.

There are many millenials with much much more money than some boomers. Many boomers are poor and have been poor all their lives because of the principles and values that are making rich millenials and those rich millenials' parents and grandparents rich.

It's not about the generations!

It's rich and poor. Not black and white not young and old not men and women it's rich and poor. Rich and Poor! And until that clicks this story will go on and on and on with poor people blaming everything but the value system that drives and supports the story.

Generation after generation blames a previous generation but does absolutely nothing to fix it but instead turns a blind eye (or a covetous or worshipping eye) to those who are feeding fortunes off the system.

It's really hard to watch. I've been watching now through four maybe five generations this same old same old and it is so damn tiresome. And there's no point. Why do I keep watching? It's not going to change. Is it fascination or horror, some delusional hope?

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u/Ktowne33 Oct 21 '21

This barely makes sense. What are all these old people doing standing behind broke kids with their laptops open? Lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Baby boomers are retired, and when they were working they didn’t need to edit PDFs as they barely existed

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u/GregorF92 Oct 21 '21

Baby boomers are retired

You'd be surprised. I get regular calls in IT from people born in the 50s/early 60s.

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u/BreathOfFreshWater Oct 21 '21

My parents were the product of boomers. They're only 20 years older and I'm 29. I have to say it's not just the millennial generation. It's every generation I'm between. And I'm selfish saying this but FUCK are they going to the the ruin of social security.

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u/SeanSeanySean Oct 21 '21

At the current rate of withholding and balance, social security won't be there when GenX retires, let alone millennials. Boomers won, they managed to get through most of their loves without increasing the social security withholding, instead they pushed out retirement age multiple times, yet they've got their cost of living increases which GenX and millennials have been footing the majority of the bill for quite some time, and as the first GenXers start to retire, there won't be enough coming in the keep SS solvent. We've all known that we had to remove the max SS withholding for years, or at least make it $1M or $10M instead of $145K.

GenX has been paying into social security their entire lives only to have it implode as we retire, and while it sucks for everyone, the previous generations should at least still be 25+ years from retirement when it does, not that 25 years saving an extra 8% of salary will do much. At least we'll all be Uberfucked together when it comes to Healthcare, right?

Seriously, fuck boomer politicians, and an extra special fuck you to Reagan and George W. Bush.

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u/gerryflint Oct 21 '21

Almost as if opening pdfs is not that important for making money. Just like a secretary can write with ten fingers.

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u/JejuneBourgeois Oct 21 '21

I know you meant type, but I'm picturing someone with pens for fingers writing furiously

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u/Hex_Agon Oct 21 '21

Depends on what the job is

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u/alanamil Oct 21 '21

The odds are high that baby boomer was also broke as hell when they were in their early 20's.

Many of us do not make 6 figures (I sure don't) and many of us know how to open a PDF. (boomer here)

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u/rb_thirteen Oct 21 '21

Not too many boomers(on the grand scale) gave birth to millennials.

Just because you had shit cunt parents, doesn't mean we all did.

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u/Artistic-Ear-7096 Oct 21 '21

Why do they assume anyone older than a "millennial" is a baby boomer? Truly bizzarre

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u/PurrNaK Oct 21 '21

Is everyone out there making over $100000 a year? I've been working my whole life putting in a real effort and being positive. I thought I was doing okay. But I'm a long way from that kind of money.

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u/ChickendantZZZ Oct 21 '21

Father makes 7 figures+ while my mom lives paycheck to paycheck

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