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Timothy Simpkins Timberview school fight moments before shooting Arlington Texas classmates 📌Follow Up

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u/BBPRJTEAM Oct 06 '21

In this video you hear the shots being fired.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445804956452208645

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u/Tazwell3 Oct 06 '21

Wow. The shooter is 18 and drives a 2018 Dodge Charger. He threw away his whole future over some fight.

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u/Thorteris Oct 06 '21

Suburban af area too

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u/Big_Dick_No_Brain Oct 07 '21

How does a high school kid afford a 2018 Dodge Charger ?

All I had to get to high school was a bicycle.

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u/theErasmusStudent Oct 07 '21

He doesn't, his parent do

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u/backtolurk Oct 07 '21 Gold

Wow would you look at that, Mr Big Dick No Brain fancy bicycle. I had feet

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u/SleazieWonder Oct 07 '21

WAAAAAOW MR BACKTOLURK MR ”I had feet” when I was your age we crawled to school 6 miles uphill everyday! But you don’t hear me complaining!!!>:(

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u/PhillyLC6281 Oct 07 '21

you could craw? you must have been one of those private school kids. in my day we had to slide on our backs through snow and rain

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u/Three-OneLmao Oct 07 '21

Uphill both ways 😭😭 how did all of our parents go to the same school??

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u/MrGoatBanger Oct 07 '21

It was the old school. And we walked ten miles uphill both ways cause physics wasn't invented yet.

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u/Josecopter Oct 07 '21

ah yes, the very first school, school 1

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u/WikidTechn9cian Oct 07 '21

You are lucky you have a back, You Young entitled prick.😂

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u/PullFires Oct 07 '21

Yeah, but was it snowing, ya pansy?

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u/_Canid_ Oct 07 '21

Oh let me lord my superiority over someone finally: I walked into a free sweet third-hand mini-van in high school. Suck it bicyclist nerd!

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u/Ok-Focus9858 Oct 07 '21

Threw away his whole future? What makes you think his nice car meant he had it made, and one fight is what messed it up?

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u/NY2GA23 Oct 08 '21

So many ignorant replies here. WTF, does what he drive, have to do with anything?! I hope those are teens replying that. He’s getting assaulted and it probably wasn’t the first time. You imagine that’s your kid getting his ass whooped like that. You’ve already talked to the teachers and principal several times, and in typical fashion, the school does nothing. The parents exhaust that avenue, and all they can tell him is keep your head down and avoid problems.

This assault was caught on video, who knows how many other times something similar or constant threats occurred. Not a single person got up to help him.

You assault a coworker like this, you get fired, at any business. Prior to the shooting, why would he have to be the one to change schools? It should be the bullies that were expelled a looooong time ago. No school will accept the bullies? Then make them learn remotely. It ain’t right what the shooter did at all, but all the adults that were supposed to protect him at that school failed him. The parents of the bullies failed them.

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u/anonymous_h_user Oct 09 '21

YES!!! THIS!! I was bullied hardcore in elementary school and middle school and went the other way and tried to commit suicide numerous times. If I had known anyone in my family who had a gun, I would have done what this kid did. Because you get to the point of no return and no matter what money or privilege you have or don't have or what future you may throw away, you can only see the now. And the pain must fucking end. And after endless bullying, imagining the person who has harassed you endlessly, dying in a puddle of blood, makes you feel pretty damn powerful.

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u/NauticalJeans Oct 07 '21

Nice car implies he has wealthy parents, which is often a ticket to success in America (speaking as an individual whose parents paid for their college)

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u/BigSlammaJamma Oct 07 '21

Thank you for not being one of those people that didn’t have to work for it but pretend you did it all by yourself. As someone who’s been poor my whole life it’s not as easy to just not be poor as it may seem

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u/silentrawr Oct 08 '21

Something along the lines of, "they were born on third base but act like they hit a triple." Baseball bc 'Murica.

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u/philojones Oct 07 '21

I'm from here and according to locals he's a good kid with upper middle class family. Not rich but rich to many at his school who don't have cars, expensive clothes, etc. He was popular until this year and didn't have a lot of problems until now where he's been getting attacked constantly and he just finally snapped. If you have ever been seriously bullied then you can respond like this.... it's not right but when it becomes you or them anything is possible. He felt like he had no other options when he should have changed schools - his family thought it would get back to normal at some point. The school was notified of bullying and that's probably what led to the last couple of ass beatings. He's too small to fight normal sized people.

You may be surprised what happens in court. There are some powerful people around sympathetic to Tim Simpkins. The kids bullying him are all pretty much convicted criminals and gangsters.

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u/ForGodsSakeTv Oct 06 '21

Run, hide, fight

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

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u/madDarthvader2 Oct 06 '21

Unfortunately it don't just happen at schools :/

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u/emleigh2277 Oct 06 '21

Unfortunately it happens at schools.

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u/madDarthvader2 Oct 06 '21

Well yes, but what I was saying is unfortunately we have to worry outside of school as well.

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u/Big_bluETrucK Oct 07 '21

That’s why I got my CC license. Never leave the house without my trusty smith and Wesson

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u/sherms89 Oct 06 '21

Wait till your grandkids are in school, we need to deal with bullies and put a stop to it.

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u/crusty_fleshlight Oct 06 '21

Survive. Evade. Resist. Escape.

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u/datdoodmon Oct 07 '21

SERE was a hell of an experience I will never forget!

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u/winky_wanky_woo Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Which one was Tim?...... EDIT: Thank you all for the replies, way too many to mention.👌

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

I Can't tell. Here was the released photo of him 3 houra ago Timothy Simpkins BOLO photobefore he was captured.

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u/Original_Corner Oct 06 '21

His photo shows he's wearing a white Hoodie and has shorter hair. Idk if that helps

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u/stlkatherine Oct 06 '21

Who knows when that pic was taken, tho?

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u/high_fuck Oct 07 '21

It's a drivers license photo

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u/KPSTL33 Oct 07 '21

Yea that's his driver's license photo.

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Indeed. I added the link in general as it became apparent in comments that many were saying the one being beaten was white which I could not decipher at all from cell video quality I still cannot determine who is who as those claiming to be students I the know is now outta control

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u/AnarchoJoey Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

The aggressor.

edit it seems more likely that it was actually the kid getting beat up, poor video quality caused some confusion.

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u/r_hove Oct 06 '21

Really?? He’s not the one getting beat tf up?

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u/AnarchoJoey Oct 06 '21

Really. NBC showed his picture. I assumed it was the other way around too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm5OGBBS-Jk

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u/XfuckoffcleanshirtX Oct 06 '21

He looks like the one getting beat. Idk how recent that photo is but the dude doing the beating has long hair and a much darker complection

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u/Shacobs Oct 06 '21

He looks nothing like the aggressor in this video compared to the picture and there are already saying it was the kid getting beat up from other videos

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u/AnarchoJoey Oct 06 '21

Can you show me a link to any media source that is saying that? Because I can't find one. Police certainly didn't say that when they referred to the video in their statements. As I said the video looks like it's been filmed on a potato and I could be wrong but I'm not sure.

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u/Unclesaltyjowls Oct 06 '21

Is this what caused the shooting?

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Per Arlington police officially now: Arlington police said there was a fight between students on the second floor of the school when one of the students pulled out a gun.

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u/Candid_Voice_9673 Oct 06 '21

Thats not a fight. Only one of them fighting. Aka assault.

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u/BdubinVegas Oct 06 '21

The bullshit is they will suspend the kid who’s taking that beating if he tries to defend himself which will go on his school records and possibly prevent him from getting into the college of his choice. So, stand up for yourself and potentially screw your chances for college, or let other pieces of shit with no future ambitions walk all over you.

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u/jmfirman Oct 06 '21

I tell my kids all the time, someone hits you, you fight back with everything you got until they stop fighting you. I don't give a damn what the school says, and I tell my kids that it's my job to deal with the school at that point not theirs, they have a right to defend themselves.

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u/emleigh2277 Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 09 '21

I told my kids that too. Its not always a solution. They grown now. But my eldest daughter, she wouldn't cop nothing and still is too harsh. The next one a boy he had some issues, he knew how to box I said "fuck them up and they won't bother you no more", but he said to me "I don't like the feeling, even when they are a dick I don't like the feeling in me when someone gets hurt". He is still kind hearted. I got 4 more but they haven't been in many fights, the benefit of having older siblings I guess.

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u/lofiman225 Oct 06 '21

This. the bullied kids always get equal punishment.

coming from a former bullied who got 3 months detention along with the kid who beat me up. american school system for you. pathetic joke of a system. and we wonder why so many of our children commit suicide

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u/pianomasian Oct 07 '21

I never understood this and never will. Why punish the victim and the bully equally? I haven't heard a single convincing argument for this and yet somehow every school district has adopted this policy by default? It's almost as stupid as taking inhalers away from kids with asthma, because of stupidly applied blanket rules of "no drugs in school" (Kids have died from this btw).

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u/G4Designs Oct 07 '21 Hugz

Why punish the victim and the bully equally?

Its far easier than actually investigating what happened. Plus, if they do, they have to go on record acknowledging a hostile bullying environment which would then make them liable.

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u/wheeeeeeeeeel Oct 07 '21

This ... In high school, a guy in my class kept trying to punch me me(M) in my groin. He tried it once when we got into our classroom and I spoke up by saying, "Stop trying to hit me in the nuts". I got sent to the principles office and nothing happened to him, all because I said "nuts". And yes, I live in Alabama.

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u/balls_galore_69 Oct 07 '21

It’s the same here in Canada for the most part. I don’t know if it’s changed much since I went to school 15 years ago. I’ve seen kids be punished for defending themselves after being cornered and jumped. No matter what you’d tell the staff, they wouldn’t want to hear it.

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u/jayyydayy Oct 06 '21

The one taking the beating is the one who came back and shot the school I thought

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u/Wizard_Nose Oct 06 '21

That could also affect his chances at getting into his college of choice.

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u/GumpTheChump Oct 06 '21

You DO NOT want that on your college application. That's bad news.

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u/owwwwwo Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

Just get a Dad that's in the Senate, then he can pressure the University into giving you an honorary degree. Then you can get a job in the pharmaceutical industry as a CEO, use your father's power to Federally mandate your brand of epipen the standard in all schools and Federal facilities, and you casually Scrooge McDuck.

Or as I call it, the American Way.

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u/Adventurous-Mess9304 Oct 06 '21

The West Virginia way. Eff Manchin. I actually went to school with Heather. Spoiled brat

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u/joevilla1369 Oct 06 '21

Not Arizona state. They will take anyone.

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u/explosiv_skull Oct 06 '21

As far as I've seen there's no definitive answer yet of which person in the fight is the shooter. I'll admit, the immediate conclusion I jumped to is that the one getting beat on must have been the shooter as well, but it's just an assumption. We know the shooter was 18 and the one shot was 15. We could assume based off that the the aggressor in the fight, who's clearly much bigger than the kid he is wailing on, is the 18 year old and the smaller kid is the 15 year old, but it's also possible the 18 year old is small for their age or the 15 year old is large for his age.

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u/frankielee713 Oct 06 '21

We could also assume the teacher is ordering some pasta, for room 26. They’ll be hungry after that brawl.

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u/TomOxygen Oct 06 '21

I mean not really.. depends on how it started. If one just jumped the other than yeah it’s assault, but the footage doesn’t show that. If they both went head to head and fought, just because one is losing and can’t hit back, is still a fight. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/ribosometronome Oct 06 '21

Aka 4 counts of attempted murder cause he apparently pulled out a gun and shot 4 of 'em.

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

UPDATE Yes it is confirmed that this is what caused the shooting today. However student gossip is this fight was from earlier rather than "moments" before. I'm not CNN or FOX so stop hating

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Trying to verify all still

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u/AnarchoJoey Oct 06 '21

NBC news has shown a picture. The shooter is the aggressor in this video.

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u/xChino420x Oct 06 '21

Did he get a haircut and lose some height before getting caught?

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

UPDATE Some reports are stating this fight was from upto a day earlier. LE are reviewing footage still. Timothy Simpkins returned from this incident to shoot the person. SCHOOL GOSSIP is reporting that Tim was robbed and that today the brother of the one who robbed him pressed a gun up on him in the hallway, but Tim was carrying a gun as well today and shot him. I mean WHATEVER but something is wrong at the school if there are that many carrying guns around! 👉Update 8:37pm Eastern: please review MSM reports for updated more accurate info from when I initially made this post & this comment which I did from early on-scene reports coming in. UPDATE: 9:55 pm a great mod over at helpful redditor did some research and linked a news site of initial BOLO regarding clothing of the shooter is the boy getting beat down in this video. 10:17 pm edit: Please refer Back to the 8:37pm update. Here is a link sent me by helpful mod which is compelling info on who Timothy Simpkins may be in this video News report states search for Grey Sweatshirt shooter Compelling news link seems to indicate the one being beaten up. But the collection of IG pics I have do look similar to aggressor. We can't tell any identifying features in this video except what the boy being beaten is wearing

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u/abevigodasmells Oct 06 '21

It's Texas. I'm sure there's some parents that WANT their kids carrying guns to school.

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u/KevinAlertSystem Oct 07 '21

sounds like this could have been prevented if the school admin hadn't been letting kids get robbed and assaulted on school property.

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

Not confirmed yet, but he may be the one on the receiving end. Reportedly he shot 3 and a pregnant teacher (?) Might have fallen, but is okay. His Home is surrounded. Update: he is captured and in police custody.

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u/newberry126 Oct 06 '21

He is they released a picture of him

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

His picture was released 3 hours ago when they were looking for him. Personally I can't tell who might be who in this video

BOLO Timothy Simpkins

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u/andre3kthegiant Oct 06 '21

Looks like he is wearing the same grey hooded sweatshirt.

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u/farcense Oct 06 '21

That’s an ID photo, not likely taken the same day this video was taken

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u/The_Texidian Oct 06 '21

I don’t miss high school at all

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u/MakoFishy Oct 06 '21

Same just a breeding down for depression

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u/random_vegetable69 Oct 07 '21

Highschools in general arent, maybe some are

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u/newmanium2020 Oct 06 '21

Which one did the shooting?

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u/Patchy-Paladin20 Oct 06 '21

Maybe if schools didn’t protect bullies over the bullied, none of this would happen

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u/Sensitive_Peace_4070 Oct 06 '21

Facts

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u/PandaTheVenusProject Oct 06 '21

You can't even defend the bullied if you wanted to.

0 tolerance (even for glorious justice)

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u/cp8887 Oct 06 '21

Exactly, it has been happening since my grandparents was in school and it is still happening to this day even in small rural schools.

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u/MrGoatBanger Oct 06 '21

Something seriously needs to be done about the bullying and violence in our schools. Everyone's raising a generation of entitled little bastards, violent ones at that. That think they can do whatever they want and commit acts of violence against others with no punishment. You can only violate a person so many times before they take your life or their own.

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u/555seanc555 Oct 07 '21

its the school system and the environment thats fucking us up

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u/YourMommylikesIt Oct 07 '21

Can you believe the story the shooter gave to justify this heinous act is that the little guy who's ass he just whooped had been bullying him all year... stealing his lunch money. ..mmhm... mmk.

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u/SelphiesSmile Oct 08 '21

The shooter is the guy in white.....he's the one who got beat up.

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u/Living_Bet_6583 Oct 06 '21

Maybe if someone intervened it’d be different :/

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u/rowlakel Oct 06 '21

Middle School teacher here: I don’t make enough money to throw myself in between two students fighting who are bigger than me. I don’t go to work to get punched. It’s not in my job description. Fights happen more than you think.

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u/Ladysupersizedbitch Oct 06 '21

Completely agree. In my senior year the Foods class teacher got fired because a student who was significantly taller and bigger than her backed her up against a table while threatening her, very bodily all up on her, and out of fear she slapped him. The piece of shits mom had the audacity to try and sue the school. Even without a lawsuit tho, they immediately fired the teacher, despite her feeling like she was truly in danger.

The system is so geared towards letting kids run all over teachers and get what they want, it’s fucking sad.

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u/555seanc555 Oct 07 '21

at my school ( a city away from where this happened) teachers would get physical as hell, this one fight saw a kid get choke held by a teacher and another getting yanked by the hoodie out of the fight (even though the teacher got slapped, sure he got charged with assault)

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u/JungAchs Oct 06 '21

More to the point you’d immediately be fired for touching a student and probably face some sort of legal backlash as well

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u/rowlakel Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

That too. I am not going to be sued by Timmy’s parents because they were upset I put my hands on him.

Two years ago, I stepped in between two boys and got shoved. And I said, “fuck that. I don’t get paid enough for this shit.”

Code reds are fucking scary though. We had one last week Thursday because a kid brought a gun to school to get back at a rival gang. Luckily, no one was injured at school that day. The kid ended up getting shot Monday evening. I think about it constantly. The trauma from this shit… I feel so bad for those kids that went through this.

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u/fredsiphone19 Oct 06 '21

The only fist fight I saw that for bad at school was between two hundred kg chonks on sports teams.

The fuck is a hundred and twenty pound English teacher going to do, besides get hurt by accident?

Being a teacher sounds really hard right now in muricA.

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u/rowlakel Oct 07 '21

Fucking preach. My kid are so much bigger than me. I ain’t going to do shit by stepping in between a fight.

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u/djrtbg5 Oct 06 '21

How do these kids even get a gun into their hands?

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u/rowlakel Oct 07 '21

Gangs. Parents. Etc. super easy to get a weapon. I was leaving school a few weeks ago and heard a zap. I look over and a high schooler had a taser in her hand waiting for the city bus!!

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u/Racdoremi Oct 06 '21

Exactly. You would be fired, sued, and probably in the 6pm news and accused of something awful.

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u/Dreshna Oct 06 '21

Not true. There is a risk. When I taught high school I had to physically break up fights on several occasions. The only "consequence" I ever received was having to fill out a bunch of paperwork for documenting a workplace incident and the kids' expulsion hearings. And I literally line backer tackled one kid and then held him pinned to the ground until the cops got there in the same metropolitan area as this school.

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u/texasmama5 Oct 06 '21

Right. That is what the school security get paid to do.

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u/FrostyMcChill Oct 06 '21

I tried intervening years ago in a fight in like 3rd grade or something to stop it and I also got hurt and then the school basically said it was my fault and I shouldn't have tried to intervene.

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u/RestaurantEffective9 Oct 06 '21

Zero tolerance policy is bullshit. Perfect way to raise a generation of people who don't help others in need.

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u/RojoDiablo723 Oct 06 '21

Do me a favor. Go shit on your schools admin for their absolutely stupid idiotic dumbass reason to blame it on you.

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u/EllisHughTiger Oct 06 '21

The entire educational system is a bunch of ridiculously well paid but useless Chiefs lording over poorly paid Indians trying to herd cats with no resources.

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u/fatasianboi Oct 06 '21

same here, back in school i intervened because a kid was turning blue being choked by his collar by a kid having an autistic episode. I got in trouble for being involved even though i was just trying to get him some air, not even trying to separate them, just trying to not let him suffocate. the autistic kid that attacked the other, nothing. Both of us, in school suspension.

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u/Sunshiine89 Oct 06 '21

Sometimes its worth getting in trouble. If im going to get shit for helping someone, then so be it

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u/ribosometronome Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

Ah man, that sucks. Sorry that you ended up such a shit deal for doing a good deed.

I'm on the other end of things and really appreciate that someone intervened. In 7th grade, a kid pushed me from behind while changing for gym. Ended up in a fight real quick. A kid on the soccer team broke it up. Really appreciate him for doing that (even though I was winning). Kept either of us from getting in trouble and the bully left me alone after that. Granted, neither of us were full on insane, just stupid 7th graders full of new hormones.

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u/fischermayne47 Oct 06 '21

Zero tolerance policies usually punish everyone involved including those who try to intervene.

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u/Local-Idi0t Oct 06 '21

Kids are told from kindergarten that everything goes on their permanent record and will keep them out of college or being able to get a job. They dont want to be mistaken as part of the problem and ruining their future.

Schools need to do away with the myth of the permanent record. No one cares about your school records.

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u/HaightnAshbury Oct 06 '21

I’ve added this comment to your permanent record.

We have a zero tolerance policy with respect to talking about eliminating the idea of a permanent record.

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u/Local-Idi0t Oct 06 '21

Put right there along side gang leader.

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u/ChuckOTay Oct 07 '21

It also says here that you once grabbed a dog by the hind legs and pushed him around like a vacuum cleaner.

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u/hotsoupcoldsoup Oct 06 '21

Thank you! Someone needs to hold a permanent record!

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u/HaightnAshbury Oct 06 '21

Too much enthusiasm and gratitude. Your permanent record has been amended.

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u/Texas_Technician Oct 06 '21

What, that's not true. No schools I know of do this.

The reason no one interviens in situations like this is because they would also end up in trouble.

Schools fucking blow at dealing out punishment.

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u/wrathofjigglypuff Oct 06 '21

... unless you shoot someone, then I imagine it will.

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u/Denotsyek Oct 06 '21

Didn't a teacher intervene and get shot?

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u/Sc00by Oct 06 '21

Teachers are generally trained to not intervene. This teacher actually did exactly what she was supposed to do. Those who do intervene, do it at their own will and risk everything to receive nothing.

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u/LowKeyLoud Oct 06 '21

Intervene during the fight? Who do you expect to do that?

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Maybe they did and it's why he shot a teacher and couple other kids besides the one beating on him. Exactly why I don't do that, just stay safely at a distance & call 911

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u/venger417 Oct 06 '21

Nobody intervenes these days. Thats the problem. Theyre too busy videoing everything

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u/LuminalAstec Oct 06 '21

Teachers will get fired and never hired again if they touch a student even if it was the right thing to do. Student have a 0 tolerance fighting policy even if it is in self defense. Pretty fucked system that's why kids who get bullied are so helpless because there is nothing that can get done about it.

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u/hotsoupcoldsoup Oct 06 '21

No, it's because teachers will lose everything.

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u/ekemes Oct 06 '21

The chances of catching a criminal charge or a civil suit when intervening to break up a fight far outweigh the benefit of breaking up the fight. Walk on by.

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u/Racdoremi Oct 06 '21

Because we literally can’t! That’s a one way ticket to the unemployment office

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u/allworkandnoplay1337 Oct 07 '21

If you're referring to a teacher: Yeah risk your entire career and the stability of the job you went to college for to intervene with some clowns that will sue you claiming you intervened too hard on their "baby."

I wouldn't touch a school fight with a 10 foot pole in today's society.

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u/rowlakel Oct 07 '21

Frickin Preach!

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u/LordKaine Oct 06 '21

What an unfortunate name.

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u/dyllanfreg35 Oct 06 '21

Are teachers not allowed to physically try to stop fights anymore? I see a lot of videos where they seem to just watch and yell

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u/Jaksmack Oct 06 '21

Not in the school my wife used to work at. Kids get up and start walking down the hall slamming lockers and kicking doors. They just let them go on with it and call their parents. All the while they disrupt every other kid in the school. If a kid gets violent, they have to call a school officer (the district has their own police force) to handle it, teachers face disciplinary action if they intervene. If a kid tries to defend them self, they get written up for fighting too. I had one of the worst fights with my wife we ever had because I told my kids to never let another kid hit him (we take martial arts as a family) She maintained that they should not because it could hurt their chances of getting into university (they're in elementary school now). The shitty parents come to the school and bitch at the administrators about how their kids are treated, instead of doing anything about their shitty spawn..

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u/Anarcho_Christian Oct 06 '21

They just let them go on with it and call their parents

Where my brother taught, he called the parent because a student was destroying the theatre props.

The mother accused him (white) of single-ing out her child (black) because he was the student's only white teacher.

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u/Jaksmack Oct 06 '21

That's usually the kind of thing that happened for my wife as well..

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor Oct 06 '21

Shitty parents are the worst.

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u/Hamilspud Oct 06 '21

Lol idk wtf you expect a 130 lb woman to do to break up a fight between two grown ass men. they may have the maturity of a child but an 18 year old has a man’s body.

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u/GirraffeAttack Oct 06 '21

I’m a high school teacher. We’re “allowed” to step in within reason but typically the protocol is to get help. We’re not trained combatants we’re educators. If I try to step in too forcefully I could hurt a student and lose my job. If I’m not forceful enough then I could be the one hurt. Even being near a fight when you’re in a crowded hallway can get you hurt. I’ve been slammed into walls/lockers, hit, and been pepper sprayed just when trying to move away from a fight. I’m not about to walk towards one and get hurt even worse, they don’t pay me enough for that.

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Probably why a teacher ended up shot. They tried to "help".

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u/LuckyPlaze Oct 06 '21

The teacher ends up shot, assaulted or some parent threatens to sue her for touching her poor sweet innocent child.

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u/tetralih Oct 06 '21

They won't pay workman's comp either if you break up a fight

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u/alexysssena Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

When students are told not to intervene - we forget that we are also teaching them how to sit back and do nothing.

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u/wisdomandjustice Oct 07 '21

Which is probably why we have a generation of people who stand around filming instead of helping.

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u/Known-Cloud7667 Oct 06 '21

Sounds like a terrible place to get educated

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u/GrilledCheeser Oct 06 '21

They got mood lighting tho. Guess that shit didn’t work

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u/Ghost_carapace_0 Oct 07 '21

So the cycle continues. bully beats up kid, teacher does nothing, kid comes back with deadly weapons.

It happens so many fucking times, rinse and repeat.

Bullies need to be put in solitary.

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u/imontiza Oct 07 '21

America is dystopia as f.

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u/Total_Progress4586 Oct 06 '21

Teachers should be allowed pepper spray at least

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u/ninjaoliver2017 Oct 08 '21

I dont trust some of my old teachers with fucking pepper spray

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u/Dr_Blasphemy Oct 06 '21

For anyone wondering he's the one getting his shit rocked. In the picture released of him he had short hair so I'm going by that.

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u/late-nite-lenny Oct 06 '21

The irony of the word READ literally falling on them while they fight..

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u/Spaceballs_the_troll Oct 06 '21

they should have banned the bags... then none of this would have happend..

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u/Bigducktendies Oct 06 '21

Name checks out

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u/ubzerv22 Oct 06 '21

What bags?

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u/Ghetto_Phenom Oct 06 '21

I believe they're referencing some schools here in the US now banning backpacks as a way to combat gun violence in schools as if that's going to help.. Might as well ban pockets also.. ban everything but the guns basically..

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u/mensch75 Oct 06 '21

One student remained in defense. What he was supposed to do. Per the rules.

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u/Brooklinejournal Oct 06 '21

Well, hard to claim self defense when he shoots a teacher and 3 students.

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u/Herbetet Oct 06 '21

Which one is he the one giving the haymakers or the one getting them?

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u/alex6219 Oct 06 '21

Why does the room look like its filled with smoke?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

With Walmart floor lamps for lighting… who’s house is this?

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u/EllisHughTiger Oct 06 '21

Sorry teachers, no money for lights or copy paper, but here's a new football stadium!

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u/BRENTICUSMAXIMUS Oct 06 '21

What a time to be alive.

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u/zekee60 Oct 07 '21

Animals

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u/joevilla1369 Oct 06 '21

"Fight". Looks like assault.

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u/anarchitect9 Oct 06 '21

Has anyone flown to Cancun to see what Ted Cruz has to say?

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u/Ok-Account4511 Oct 06 '21

Support Planned Parenthood.

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u/You-Only-YOLO_Once Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

Pearl Jam informed (warned) us about this back in 1991. But we haven’t listened…

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u/WhereAreMyMittens Oct 06 '21

Except Jeremy shot himself, not his classmates. Big difference.

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u/lib3rtybib3rty Oct 06 '21

Right?!?! Good call

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u/chufenschmirtz Oct 07 '21

That doesn’t look like a fight to me. It looks like someone is beating the shit out of a cowering person.

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u/Cici1y Oct 06 '21

Multiple lives ruined and for what?

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u/Senior-Humor8523 Oct 06 '21

Trying to act tough beating on someone smaller than you.

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u/zombiekiller2014 Oct 07 '21

God damn, you sure this is a fight? That kid is beating the fuck outta him when he’s tryna curl up.

Did that kid getting beat do anything before the clip started??

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u/bluesube Oct 07 '21

kid in the white hoodie wearing black air forces, shooter confirmed

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u/Variation-Budget Oct 06 '21

Remember when they said they would start caring about school shootings if a black kid did it? I’m looking forward to see if how they spin this or will they just sweep in under the rug

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u/AnalogDigit2 Oct 07 '21

I've never heard this, who's "they"?

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u/Variation-Budget Oct 07 '21

The people that believe that the only time politicians care about gun violence is when minorities are the ones committing the violence. It more like a jab at right wingers who will throw their gun freedoms away because “scary minorities” > gun freedom. First time I’m hearing of a black kid shooting up a school so want to see how this is addressed form the right and the left.

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u/Traditional-Ad3161 Oct 06 '21

What this kid was despicable, and I feel for all the victims, including the bully.

But as someone who was bullied and beat up relentlessly throughout middle and high school, I get it.

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u/Dog_Apoc Oct 07 '21

No one breaks up the fight. They all just stand around whilst some kid gets the shit beat out of him. As usual with reddit. We don't know what caused the fight. So I'm not gonna make an assumption that this was extreme bullying or if this was something that they both did.

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u/osfan68 Oct 06 '21

Did not take long to appear 7 hours wow

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u/MrGoatBanger Oct 06 '21

For whatever reason this comment landed here out of context. I was replying to a completely different comment not this one. Idk how my comment landed here by mistake.

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u/TheChemAmni Oct 06 '21

Just hit him with a chair

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u/CaliJim69 Oct 07 '21

They’re saying he was bullied in school. Good luck with that argument. He could’ve of just snapped but he remembered to bring a gun before he snapped so that’s problematic too.

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u/MrCreamyCheeks Oct 09 '21

I agreee with kids parents. Obviously shooting the kids is over the top but dude keeps getting jumped and bullied. Like how you supposed to go to school while this is happening to you

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u/Drywall-life Oct 06 '21

He didn’t throw one punch, from his demeanor in the fight looks like he is used to being beat up which would explain why he had a firearm.

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u/Benoit_In_Heaven Oct 06 '21

Jeremy spoke in claaaaaaaaaaass today...

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u/WhereAreMyMittens Oct 06 '21

Jeremy killed himself, he didn't shoot up the classroom.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '21

My parents taught school (Junior High and H.S.) for several years, then both left for private sector.

They were allowed to physically grab students and take them to the principal's office. When we were students in J.H and H.S. this was allowed too.

Everything changed once the parents of unruly students discovered lawyers and started filing law suits.

I also blame student athletic departments for preventing some of the children from being suspended or expelled, "because we might make it to state this year".

The other thing that is responsible is Republicans. You want good teachers, start paying them more.

A good quality and free public education creates a stronger nation. The GOP has done everything they can to undermine our public education. We've turned our schools into twelve year day care centers.

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u/tooboot1 Oct 06 '21

I don’t believe he was using a certain word as a term of endearment

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u/lib3rtybib3rty Oct 06 '21

💀💀💀

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u/Riatamichoacana Oct 06 '21

I think is very poetic at about 3 seconds the letters that make the word READ fall to the floor as if this is a perfect example of what happens when kids stop reading 📖 Your future is decided every day with your actions… do not stop reading kids.

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u/Callampadero Oct 06 '21

“Mainstream for all” is always paying these kinds of dividends. Also the backwater family court systems and punitive-only family interventions… Our systems destroy American children as efficiently as our drones murder Afghan children.

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u/Snoo-74188 Oct 06 '21

All schools need metal detectors/scanners it’s getting insane now

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u/ratcod Oct 06 '21

All schools in the United States*

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