r/pcmasterrace Creator Dec 30 '15

Please do not post keys in plain text on your giveaways PSA

This includes both in text or in image form.

This has been stated many times.

As before, the mod team isn't ready to make it against the rules for OP's to post links in plain text because some people just want to give their games away without much hassle, but:

  • Please consider avoiding giving out game keys in plain text on the subreddit.

  • Please consider making people work, even if just a little bit for their prize. While the mod team isn't a fan of the random number draw, it sure beats dumping game keys in plain text. Consider other fun ways like "tell me a joke" or "link me to your favorite under 30 seconds youtube video". Also, remember that while the mod team is really harsh with users who use multiple accounts (and other forms of giveaway fraud) on giveaways, you as OP are still free to impose sensible rules that the winners must follow (like, "x month old accounts only, please", for instance, or "user must participate on the community, not just on giveaway threads").

  • If you just post keys in plain text, everyone with an internet access can have them. This is why people aren't thanking you. You have no way to make sure whoever got it even has a Reddit account to begin with. You also can not make sure people who we banned for giveaway frauds aren't getting those keys, because that way they still have the same chance as anyone else.

Perhaps you just want to dump keys for someone else, no matter who, to get them. If so, that is fine. We will not force you to give them away in any specific matter, it's just that you may prefer to give them out to fellow members of the community, and just posting keys in plain text or in images gives pretty much everyone on earth with a decent internet connection the same chance of winning.

Remember, PCMR has millions of hits each month and according to official Reddit data, only a fraction of the people who visit Reddit actually have an account. If you want to give away games to your brothers, make sure you are. Posting keys in plain text, even if on images, isn't how. If you don't care about that, then that's fine too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Please don't ban me Pedro: X6ACM-6FY5W-TQVJH

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

G4B3N-1FUCK-M3PL5

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

Thanks for shower with dad simulator!

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

I'm so sorry. Is it possible to take back giveaways? I don't want to inflict that game on ANYONE

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

Ack, now I have ten copies! What are you doing to me?!?!

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u/Vercci The Dong Has Expanded Jan 01 '16

Circlejerk aside, any reason why?

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '16

Boring ass game. Gets stale after 5 minutes. Waste of money really

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u/Ianman2 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ianman2 Jan 05 '16

It's a "gag" game. Funny in the first few minutes and then it's just the exact same thing on repeat.

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u/SentientDust peekaboo Jan 15 '16

This is why flash games exist. Even 1$ is asking too much.

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u/Quinnell i7-4790k | EVGA GTX1080 SC2 | 32GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Feb 16 '16

Omg. You just made me realize that half of steam is cluttered with games that would have been free flash games 5 years ago.

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u/Unholybeef http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z4FgGX Apr 01 '16

Only gag if your dad is well endowed.

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u/calebthelion Ryzen 9 5900X | 3080 XC3 | Acer Predator X34 Jan 11 '16

Damn I really wanted that game

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u/Ianman2 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ianman2 Jan 05 '16

Bad Rats, claimed!

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u/Punished__Snake steamcommunity.com/id/abadeer Feb 17 '16 edited Feb 17 '16

H4LF-L1F3-THR3-3C0N-F1RM3D

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u/Aurunemaru Ryzen 7 3700X - RTX 3070 Feb 17 '16

1Y0U-L05T-TH33-G4M3

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u/simmielol123 3,5 GHz i7/ 8 GB/ NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750M 2 GB Dec 30 '15 edited Dec 30 '15

This guy is reckless! He will get himself killed!

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u/BennyHarveyPSN http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/NDWwxr Dec 30 '15

/r/firstworldanarchists welcome you my son.

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u/creeekz i7 870 | GTX 980 Ti | 16GB RAM | Windows 10 Dec 30 '15

Gone! What was it?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

I don't even remember. I closed Hot Random Keys lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

You love to live dangerously don't you? :P

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Madman!!

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Yeah, for both giveaways I did, I check the winners account age, how active they are on Reddit and how active they are on the sub.

Account is less than one month? sorry

Got -137 comment karma? sorry

Only commenting on PCMR giveaway threads? sorry

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

4749

Plz give game thanks

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15 edited Jul 13 '20

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u/Deathice94 deathice94 Jan 01 '16

followed by a documentary on the life of the saint that is op.

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u/Amrityville 5820k@4.6 | NH-D15 | 64GB | 3070 Dec 30 '15

Yeah I'm the same. Too many people JUST entering giveaways

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u/Jammer13542 i7 4770/ R9 390/12 GB Dec 31 '15

Hey, how do you get your flair and what is it for?

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u/moses2357 Core 2 Duo E8400 | 4GB DDR3 | GTX 750 Ti Dec 31 '15

For being a moderator of r/PcMasterRaceBuilds maybe?

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u/Jammer13542 i7 4770/ R9 390/12 GB Dec 31 '15

Well TIL, I haven't seen that sub before. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '16

Yeah the only giveaway Ive been in was a bad rats giveaway and I actually won lol. I usually just upvote and comment "not in giveaway but thanks op" or similar

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u/EQ-Maxwell I5 4460 | R9 380x | 8GB RAM Dec 30 '15

Hi

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u/TheTurtleHeist i5-4460 3.2Ghz Quad Core Processor, R7 370 4 GB Video Card. Dec 30 '15

Yeah its crazy how many people just post their keys in plain text and bots have taken the codes in seconds. Its impossible to get any keys when people just post in plain text. Its a shame.

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

It's not necessarily bots (if they do exist). Notice I never once said the word "bots" on the post.

If you post it in plain text, basically anyone on earth with an internet access has the same chance to get them. Even if they have never participated on PCMR. Even if they have been banned for performing giveaway frauds.

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u/TheTurtleHeist i5-4460 3.2Ghz Quad Core Processor, R7 370 4 GB Video Card. Dec 30 '15

I noticed you didn't say bots. I've just seen tons and tons of people mentioning bots taking keys so I jumped onto that bandwagon. Not sure if they do exist but its definitely possible.

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u/zeug666 No gods or kings, only man. Dec 30 '15

One of the mods made a proof-of-concept bot to read plain-text and OCR plain-text (picture of text) keys.

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u/Doctursea http://steamcommunity.com/id/doctursea/ Dec 30 '15

Yeah it's honestly not hard to make a bot that searches plain text for XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX. im pretty sure Reddit even makes it easier. That's how we have stuff lke remindme bot and the table flipping one

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u/eegras http://pc.eegras.com | I kno... Dec 30 '15

Constantly refresh this page and you'll see every comment. Refresh this one and you get all posts.

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u/xXTonyManXx i7 6800k | X99 ROG | 16GB 2666 | EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (+MBP 16") Dec 31 '15

So technically, one could have a bot that "hangs out" on that page one of those pages constantly and hunts for "Giveaway" in the title. So then if that matches, it attempts to find a key in XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX or similar form within that post, correct?

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u/eegras http://pc.eegras.com | I kno... Dec 31 '15

At that point just grab the selftext of each post, you get it with the name. Just parse to find something that looks like a key. Even if the bot isn't redeeming the code it can still give an advantage by alerting you almost instantly.

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u/jam1garner Jan 01 '16

No point in parsing if you can just use reddit's API or a wrapper like PRAW.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Almost instantly? That's how fast someone else redeemed it.

Wrong. No bots exist.

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u/MarxSoul55 Laptop | MSI GS65-037 Dec 31 '15

Programmer here.

It's actually pretty easy to create a bot to do this. A little knowledge of PRAW (Python-Reddit-API-Wrapper; basically an interface that bots use to interact with Reddit) and some programming experience go a long way.

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u/ferozer0 2700X 1050ti Jan 01 '16 edited Aug 09 '16

Ayy lmao

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u/snailPlissken PC Master Race Jan 07 '16

You should!

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

It's actually pretty easy to create a bot to do this. A little knowledge of PRAW (Python-Reddit-API-Wrapper; basically an interface that bots use to interact with Reddit) and some programming experience go a long way.

Oh a script kiddie! Here, tell me how easy it is:

In order to make a bot you must:

  • Crawl all of reddit (or more frequent places where codes are given away. This place is not ideal. r/gamedeals has threads for every bundle with codes)

  • Pull the correct XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX code for a Steam game and apply it into a Steam client in a split second.

  • Avoid any false codes, invalid or used ones, and distiungish between other clients or services (like GMG that uses 20% off vouchers in the same format.. ala GMG20-ZB5D1-93X49 )

  • Be able to avoid being locked out of Steam. You get only 1 code per game per account. And so many tries (not telling the numbers here to help anyone) or guess what? Account functionality has been restricted.

  • Avoid detection of your IP address. The above rule means you'll be running multiple instances of Steam on rented VPN servers (it's all about speed here) on multiple accounts. Oh and you'll have a super fast computer to do this. Reddit will also be able to detect botnet activity from your IP.

  • Profit somehow from a game you can't sell or trade.

  • Beat millions and millions of lurkers here who want the code badly. Humans with legit computers and Steam accounts and the ability to reason with none of the above concerns.

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u/Butthatsmyusername Athlon 860K | Sapphire Radeon R9 270X | 8Gb Crucial Feb 24 '16

Thank you for explaining this. I had truly thought that people used bots to get the codes (and may possibly have mentioned this belief in giveaway threads), but I never thought about why they would (or wouldn't) do so. If I could guild you, I would, but I'm in college. As it is, my single upvote will have to do.

Thanks again for correcting me.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Not correct. That doesn't work.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Reading text is not a proof of concept you dope. That is not a functioning bot. Nice job spreading myths.

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

Even inside the mod team you will find mods who are absolutely convinced they not only exist but are responsible for most "stolen keys" here and those (like myself) who think that although they are possible, most "stolen keys" are so "stolen" by humans.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

As a programmer, it's extremely easy to use existing libraries to write an OCR bot.

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u/ConciselyVerbose R7 1700/2080/4k Dec 30 '15

Absolutely. There's a reason captchas tend to be more complicated than that nowadays.

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u/reisli Dec 30 '15

These bots input the keys into steam?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

waves hands When it comes to programming, most things are possible to one degree or another given time and knowledge. I honestly don't know a way to input into steam automatically, but it's certainly not impossible.

What's a bit more likely/easier is that the user gets an immediate notification along with a parsed key. Copy, paste, done.

However, given that the window exists on the screen and is conceivably programmatically accessible to the (edit: high level/user level parts of the) OS, sure it's totally possible to automate it. I simply can't tell you how offhand.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

I honestly don't know a way to input into steam automatically, but it's certainly not impossible.

So you're wrong. Admit it.

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u/UlyssesSKrunk Praise GabeN Dec 31 '15

Yes. Even if steam doesn't have a formal way to automate putting in keys like reddit has a formal way to easily download all posts to this sub, it's still not a complicated process. At worst you would have the bot manually go through the process by simulating the mouse clicks and keys pressed.

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u/GamerDad79 Jan 04 '16

Ok, but I've also redeemed plain text codes 3-4 minutes after they were posted, which proves there was certainly no bot running at that moment.

I've also seen threads where everyone says "bots got them" but then you scroll down and see people saying thank you.....

Bots most certainly can exist to do these things, but based on my experiences, it's more-so ungrateful brothers than bots.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '16

Well that's sort of encouraging in a saddening kind of way.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

I've just seen tons and tons of people mentioning bots taking keys so I jumped onto that bandwagon

You're smart. Not one person can tell you why they think they exist. It's how urban myths work. They read it here so assume it's real. Yet nobody has proof.

It's not possible either. It's so difficult. You won't believe it.

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u/metalmine AMD-8320 / 8GB RAM / AMD RX480 Dec 30 '15

Hey Pedro, i recently did a giveaway where I posted on pain text but I altered it. Do you think the way I did it is ok?

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

All ways are OK. I mean, with your way, people who do not have Reddit accounts can actually win it. If you're fine with that, it's OK. I would prefer something more interactive.

Using your method, you could have a code that a user would need to PM you. First to do it would win, for instance.

The limit is your imagination!

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u/metalmine AMD-8320 / 8GB RAM / AMD RX480 Dec 30 '15

I did one where i showed a list of games where i had users pm me the games they wanted. but that too long so :P

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

I don't see what's wrong with that.

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u/IlIIlIIllI i7-4770k|980|32GB RAM|500GB SSD|4TB HDD|1440p Dec 31 '15

Bots can very easily snag them.

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u/Jackojc FX8320e @ 4.6GHz & R9 280X Dec 31 '15

The bots almost definitely exist, And are possible. I made a piece of code that does just that. I haven't used it to get keys, But I have used it as a proof of concept. To finally put a rest to this debate, Yes they do exist.

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u/GamerDad79 Jan 04 '16

Making a bot proves it's possible, not that it's happening.

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u/Jackojc FX8320e @ 4.6GHz & R9 280X Jan 04 '16

The fact that it took me 10 minutes to make, means it is almost certainly happening.

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u/SmileAsTheyDie 8700k/Strix 1080ti Jan 09 '16

The fact that i have literally won dozens of giveaways with the code being in plain text and atleast a dozen or two of those times being 3+ minutes after being posted and atleast 2 times where it was in the range of nearly 15 minutes after being posted. If there are bots they are shit at their job.

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u/iAmAddicted2R_ddit R5 3600XT / 5700 XT / Silverstone SG05 /r/SFFPC Jan 10 '16

A lot of people say this, but the fact is, Steam does have a limit on how many keys you can redeem in an hour (valid or not). So it's completely possible that when you won those giveaways, the majority of sub bots were just on their cooldowns.

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u/SmileAsTheyDie 8700k/Strix 1080ti Jan 10 '16

Then the problem has been solved by steam already. If bots were taking keys in mass and this sub was filled with them nobody would be able to win any keys let alone somebody like myself being able to win dozens.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Bingo. We have a winner. You used logic to reason out that there are no such bots.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

the majority of sub bots were just on their cooldowns.

You're just making shit up here. This is hilarious. There are no bots.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

The fact that it took me 10 minutes to make, means it is almost certainly happening.

Oh so you did this in 10 minutes? You're a liar and a script kiddie.

Was your bot able to:

  • Crawl all of reddit (or more frequent places where codes are given away. This place is not ideal. r/gamedeals has threads for every bundle with codes)

  • Pull the correct XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX code for a Steam game and apply it into a Steam client in a split second.

  • Avoid any false codes, invalid or used ones, and distiungish between other clients or services (like GMG that uses 20% off vouchers in the same format.. ala GMG20-ZB5D1-93X49 )

  • Be able to avoid being locked out of Steam. You get only 1 code per game per account. And so many tries (not telling the numbers here to help anyone) or guess what? Account functionality has been restricted.

  • Avoid detection of your IP address. The above rule means you'll be running multiple instances of Steam on rented VPN servers (it's all about speed here) on multiple accounts. Oh and you'll have a super fast computer to do this. Reddit will also be able to detect botnet activity from your IP.

  • Profit somehow from a game you can't sell or trade.

  • Beat millions and millions of lurkers here. Humans with legit computers and Steam accounts and the ability to reason with none of the above concerns.

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u/Jackojc FX8320e @ 4.6GHz & R9 280X Feb 18 '16 edited Feb 18 '16

Ok, No need to act like a fucking dickhead keyboard warrior.

  1. I'm not a script kiddie.

  2. Yes it can crawl multiple subreddits.

  3. Yes it can pull the correct steam key formats including the 15 digit and 25 digit ones.

  4. Humans cant tell if a key is used either until it's tried.

  5. You can try on multiple accounts.

  6. Use a VPN, and if that's not enough send spoof headers to reddit so they will view at as any other user agent. Besides, I don't need an account to view keys.

  7. I can also bypass IP blocking through the VPN.

  8. Yes, your last two points are valid, But I didn't intend to use it. It's a proof of concept to prove it can be accomplished extremely easily.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

The bots almost definitely exist, And are possible.

Nope. You're full of it. Stop lying pls.

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u/Jackojc FX8320e @ 4.6GHz & R9 280X Feb 18 '16

You clearly don't have any experience with programming if you think it can't be accomplished easily. There's many reddit API's available that allow you to interact with reddit in various ways.

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u/Ianman2 http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ianman2 Jan 05 '16

ctrl+f "bots"

And I didn't even notice! :0

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u/snaynay Dec 30 '15

When you have 1000's of people viewing reddit, and many are kids hoping to get that giveaway and are prepped for it, its not bots. Just quick kids who probably have the "activate a product on steam" window open at all times.

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

Yes. Also the fact that there are users whose participation on PCMR is basically F5'ing for giveaway threads, and the problem gets even worse.

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u/snaynay Dec 30 '15

I take it you don't have too much power over the styling of reddit in general? Any way you could put a little warning somehow with the giveaway flair or in the text-box when submitting a new post?

Better yet, can you run any custom javascript?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Nothing stops people from not using subreddit style

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u/ShortySim101 I7-5820k, 980TI, 350d, h100i Dec 30 '15

Isn't there a way where you can make it so only a post shows up if you are subscribed?

Wouldn't that be a bit better for giveaways?

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u/eegras http://pc.eegras.com | I kno... Dec 30 '15

We could hide the posts with CSS, but that's extremely trivial to work around. You can use a mobile app, the mobile version of Reddit or just click the checkbox in the sidebar to not show subreddit styles.

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u/ShortySim101 I7-5820k, 980TI, 350d, h100i Dec 30 '15

Oh, did not know it was that easy for a work around. Sorry.

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u/UlyssesSKrunk Praise GabeN Dec 31 '15

When you have 1000's of people viewing reddit, and many are kids hoping to get that giveaway and are prepped for it, its not bots.

Why do you think that? A single bot can outperform 1000's of people in reading and typing 100% of the time and the bot would see the thread at most 1 second after it was posted as it can get new info a maximum of 60 times per minute. Plus a bot can run 24/7 and can type and read much faster and with more accuracy than any human. There's no logical reason to assume it's anything but bots when making a bot to do it is so easy.

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u/GamerDad79 Jan 04 '16

Why do you think that? A single bot can outperform 1000's of people in reading and typing 100% of the time and the bot would see the thread at most 1 second after it was posted as it can get new info a maximum of 60 times per minute. Plus a bot can run 24/7 and can type and read much faster and with more accuracy than any human.

I think that because I've gotten keys posted in plaintext 5 minutes after they were posted. If a bot was running at that time that would never have happened.

There's no logical reason to assume it's anything but bots when making a bot to do it is so easy.

Again, if bots were running I would not win as many plain text giveaways as I do. Unless you want to suggest that my F5 skills are better than a bot (doubtful) or that people have bots but frequently they're all turned off (also doubtful)

The problem here is that 100% of the time a key is gone without a thank you, people take that as proof these bots currently exist. And while I have no doubt it's possible to make one, I've won too many plaintext giveaways to think they're currently running here.

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u/iAmAddicted2R_ddit R5 3600XT / 5700 XT / Silverstone SG05 /r/SFFPC Jan 10 '16

I think that because I've gotten keys posted in plaintext 5 minutes after they were posted. If a bot was running at that time that would never have happened.

Here's the thing though. With Steam you are limited to 24 valid keys redeemed in one hour, and you also get locked out after a certain amount of invalid attempts (keep in mind, a bot will have no way to check the validity of keys until it's too late). So it's entirely possible that in the giveaways you've won, all the bots on the sub were simply on their "cooldown" periods and unable to get any keys....

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

The guy you are talking to read a comment about bots once now believes it's easy and they exist.

Ask him for proof or where he knows this from. He won't be able to answer. It's actually nearly impossible and for zero gain.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

bots have taken the codes in seconds

Nope. Never happened. Circlejerk harder.

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u/DarkerFate Dec 30 '15

This should honestly be stickied for a week or two.

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u/dtallon13 i am in pain Dec 31 '15

Or forever

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u/primarycobblestone i5 2400s R9 280 8GB RAM Jan 01 '16

Or more than forever

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u/dtallon13 i am in pain Jan 02 '16

For the eternal duration d GabeN's Glory

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u/Gliste Jan 04 '16

Which is as soon as he changes his mind on paid mods

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u/dtallon13 i am in pain Jan 04 '16

^

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u/piox5 GTX 970!!! Feb 16 '16

So until Half Life 3 is released?

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

I vote for forever as well.

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u/Upronn Specs/Imgur Here Jan 02 '16

Message me for:

The Last Remnant.

PMs are the best way to do giveaways in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

Here's how easy it is to code a bot:

At about 11PM last night (GMT) I didn't know Python.

I had the bot done by 3AM.

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u/Gamer5Lyfe i5 4690K | Sapphire R9 390 Feb 16 '16

How did you learn Python so quickly? YouTube tutorials?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '16

Nah. I just jumped in, imagined what the code would kinda look like (e.g. look at website for keys, then the actions to redeem each one) and just googled as I went. I already know Lua and C#, so I had bits of the knowledge. It helps that Python is just an easy language to learn, much better than anything else I've learned.

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u/Gamer5Lyfe i5 4690K | Sapphire R9 390 Feb 16 '16

Alright thanks. I've been wanting to get into coding and heard Python was an easy one to start with. It was a nice coincidence to just be browsing reddit and see a comment saying they picked up Python easily.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

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u/SmileAsTheyDie 8700k/Strix 1080ti Jan 09 '16

Possible yes. Is it actually happening at any alarming rate? I would argue no since i have won dozens of plain text giveaways some being minutes after being posted. Theoretically a bot would be quicker than me or anybody else any day of the week yet others and myself have won countless giveaways.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Well, I just made a bot specifically to test if it could work, It does...Quite well actually. It's worth mentioning I haven't redeemed any of the keys I found

That's the entire point!

/facepalm

There are no bots. Spoiler alert.

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u/ProcrastinatorKenny RTX 2070 | 4790k | 32GB RAM | Steam: Procrastinator Kenny Dec 31 '15

4376 Thanks OP!

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u/Zarzalu i5 2320/660 ti Dec 30 '15

Also if you put them in the text of the post Bots can steal the keys

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u/UlyssesSKrunk Praise GabeN Dec 31 '15

Also if you put them in an image bots can steal keys with very little extra info.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

There was a post a while ago of someone posting 100 keys for a game. They were gone pretty much instantly. It was also a game that did nothing so I doubt that 100 people went through redeeming each key.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

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u/OhThereYouArePerry i7-9700K | RX 6900 XT | 64 GB 3200MHz Dec 31 '15

Yeah, but then they will just code their bot to ignore the Admin bots fake keys.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '16

How would the users know?

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u/OhThereYouArePerry i7-9700K | RX 6900 XT | 64 GB 3200MHz Dec 31 '15

They'd all be posted by the same user? Just ignore all keys posted by "fake_key_bot" or whatever it's called.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '16

Then look at account creation date

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u/k0bra3eak Nend Sudes Jan 05 '16

They should do this, then all my giveaways would be on new accounts.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Here is an example of someone using their noodle and logic to reason out that there are no bots. It's just not worth anything and it's actually really hard to do.

Kudos!

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u/dtallon13 i am in pain Dec 31 '15

People are gonna shit on your porch for that comment.

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u/ArgKyckling i5 4670 3.4Ghz | R9 270X | 8gb RAM Dec 30 '15

But since there have been so many cases of people posting giveaways in plain text with a giveaway flair, it would be extremely weird if there weren't any bots exploiting that.

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u/GamerDad79 Jan 04 '16

But since I've won plaintext giveaways up to 5 minutes after they were posted, I simply can't believe I'm beating bots while going that slowly.

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u/UlyssesSKrunk Praise GabeN Dec 31 '15

Well think about it like this. How many giveaways are there that post in plain text or in an image without obfuscating it? A ton. How long would it take an average coder to write a bot to read all the plaintext of all posts on this subreddit, and OCR all the images here, and then regex them to find the keys? I don't know, but a few hours max. There is great profit waiting for the first person to make such a bot, and it wouldn't be that difficult, therefor it stands to reason that it has been done.

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u/GamerDad79 Jan 04 '16

How do you profit off of this? Selling trading cards? That sounds like very small profit.

You can't make a bot that "reserves" the key for resale, after all.......

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

You can't. He's full of crap.

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u/RoyalBingBong i5 2500k|ASUS DCII GTX 780|16GB RAM Dec 30 '15

You should add that keys in images aren't any better either. Online OCR works pretty good in most cases..

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u/iAmAddicted2R_ddit R5 3600XT / 5700 XT / Silverstone SG05 /r/SFFPC Dec 30 '15

/r/GiftofGames has the right idea with this IMHO. They outright forbid posting of keys in plaintext, and say that if you just want to dump some codes and are feeling lazy, message the mods and they will setup a proper giveaway.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Y34H-R1GH-7Y0U-W4R3-ZM0N-K3Y

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u/Struckmanr i7-4790k Stock | 16GB | RTX 2060 Super stock Dec 30 '15

L33t speak for "Yeah Right You Were ze Monkey"

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

try again

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u/RealGamerGod88 i7-3770k / 16GB / GTX 780 Dec 31 '15

Warez Monkey?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

What if they aren't doing it for upboats and just want to give games away?

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u/Exphiser919 Dec 31 '15

It would be cool if there was a system somehow implemented in the subreddit, where you can't even view the giveaways because it will just say:

  • You do not have enough comment karma (300+)

  • You don't even have a reddit account.

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u/Karlsmart Radeon 7970, 4690k 4.5ghz - Hifiman HE-500 Dec 30 '15

CZYJW-HHHPK-BY0AW You don't own me 3AZIR-08JK7-FK9YK

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u/Blueasd Dec 30 '15 edited Dec 30 '15

m8 , you are just awesome , i was like ninjas already got them , but nop, not this time .
thanks a lot and happy new year .

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

Lunar new year?

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u/qwopking Dec 30 '15

Here endeth the lesson, amen.

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u/vonmonologue Dec 30 '15

How hard would it be to create a website that forces you to complete a captcha to get a key?

You know how filesharing sites make you complete a captcha to download a file, and then give you a 20 minute waiting period before you can download more files (unless you have a premium account).

Why isn't there a key sharing site that does the same thing? You complete a captcha to get a key, and then you have to wait 20 minutes before you're allowed to get another key.

Obviously there are easy ways around the 20 minute timer, but it would at least slow people down by a few minutes and give others a chance to get keys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

This is an interesting idea... I like it. I might give this a shot.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

W6D41-66669-GGSON

This isn't even a real code. I wonder if a bot will try it.

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u/dtallon13 i am in pain Dec 31 '15

ERROR INVALID KEY. EXITING PROCESS NINJAKEYS.EXE

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u/kingzozo19 Jan 02 '16

spelunky key 0FBIR-JAWB5-PBYTZ - I got if from humble monthly

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u/k0bra3eak Nend Sudes Jan 05 '16

Bot grabbed it as you posted it, that's why people don't find those giveaways fair.

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u/nuuvem_token Feb 18 '16

Bot grabbed it as you posted it,

Stop lying. It 100% did not.

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u/admiralpotatopt GTX1070 | i5 | 8gb RAM Jan 08 '16

Damn, I wanted Spelunky HD :(

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u/boxopen I7 4790k, Gtx 970, 16 Gigabytes. Dec 30 '15

Sticky this please!

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u/Vyri Jan 04 '16

1881 Thanks OP!

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u/Pesmergaa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Dec 30 '15 edited Dec 30 '15

When I gave away a couple of keys here, I removed 1 letter or number from them, people bitched at me for it :D

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

No one should bitch at you. In the end, you're giving free stuff away. Just consider improving the way you giveaway stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '16 edited Nov 24 '20

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u/TehMasterSword 4690K | R9 390 | Maximus Hero VII | 16GB | H440 Jan 05 '16

Confirmed cancer, dude.

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u/Junous Specs/Imgur here Dec 30 '15

Is it okay if I put AAAAA-AAAAA-AAA?A (?= A) ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

It wouldn't stop people who just come here for giveaways from taking them.

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

If you're confortable with the fact that someone who was banned by us for giveaway fraud (e.g., using multiple accounts to increase his odds at winning) has the same chance as any other person, then sure!

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '15

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u/pedro19 Creator Jan 01 '16

They make it so everyone, be it a member of the community or not, to have the same chance at winning. If the OP has no issue with that, so be it. I'd rather have it go to the community.

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u/SorteKanin i7 3770K, GTX 680, 16 GB 1600 MHz Dec 30 '15

What give-away method would the mod team recommend? Asking for future reference.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

Please consider making people work, even if just a little bit for their prize.

  • tell joke
  • favorite 30second or less video
  • solve puzzle

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u/pedro19 Creator Dec 30 '15

Check point 2 on the post.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15 edited Sep 16 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '16

Just because we're glorious doesn't mean we're smart, buddy.

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u/Blueasd Dec 30 '15

True ,it should be in some kind of puzzle form at least .

Any tutorial on how to post giveaways ,text or video will be great , i tried using couple of websites that help with giveaways , it was a mess , this thing should be cleared out .

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15

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u/DyLaNzZpRo Dec 30 '15

For larger giveaways ie multiple $60 game codes, sure, but for smaller items, there's no real point when you can make simple puzzles.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '15 edited Dec 30 '15

Also, make sure the key you are giving away hasn't already been used. I've been screwed over by that a few times this month.

Edit: Forgot words.

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u/Exphiser919 Dec 31 '15

Tell me a joke

nani ni shimasu ka?

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u/TerribleJokeBot Dec 31 '15

How was wire invented? Two Scots spotted the same coin.

I am a bot. To summon me, include "tell me a joke" somewhere in your message.

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u/RealGamerGod88 i7-3770k / 16GB / GTX 780 Dec 31 '15

tell me a joke

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u/TerribleJokeBot Dec 31 '15

How was wire invented? Two Scots spotted the same coin.

I am a bot. To summon me, include "tell me a joke" somewhere in your message.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '16

tell me a joke

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u/TerribleJokeBot Jan 01 '16

What did the skeleton say when he walked into the bar? "Give me a beer and a mop."

I am a bot. To summon me, include "tell me a joke" somewhere in your message.

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u/Heniboy I5-6500 | RX 480 8 GB | 16 GB RAM Dec 31 '15

Also it is possible to hijack accounts with keys from what I hear...

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u/Gazalar85 i5-3570k@3.40GHz, GTX1080, 16GB Jan 01 '16

Ok

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u/Zero_the_Unicorn Rx 590, i7-4790 3.60GHz, 8GB, Windows 7 Jan 02 '16

Well, /u/pedro19, you might wanna change the rules description then. It already bothered me when reading it because that exactly how bots get it.

The Master Race is generous. When we do giveaways we do it within the bounds of our subreddit. Feel free to give prizes as you see fit, but don't mandate subscriptions or other benefits. You can post about your channel, just don't make it a requirement to go, comment or subscribe there to get prizes or to increase the likelihood of getting them.

We prefer image screenshots of keys to avoid potential key-stealing bots

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u/pedro19 Creator Jan 02 '16

I don't get it. Isn't that already there?

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u/Zero_the_Unicorn Rx 590, i7-4790 3.60GHz, 8GB, Windows 7 Jan 02 '16

Yes, I copy pasted it. The last line is the one striking confusion, keys shouldnt be screenshotted, as bots can easily get them

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u/pedro19 Creator Jan 02 '16

Fixed

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u/Zero_the_Unicorn Rx 590, i7-4790 3.60GHz, 8GB, Windows 7 Jan 03 '16

Thanks, its quite infuriating knowing some botters get free games daily.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '16

I did a giveaway codes with the codes hidden in a image that would screw with OCR software and it was gone in seconds and I only got 4 karma with next to no replies. It was the first and last time I did a giveaway.

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u/Platni65 i5-4690k GTX 1080 Jan 11 '16

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u/cmtedouglas Ryzen 9 5900x | GTX 980Ti | Arch Linux Jan 12 '16

what do you think of a webpage just forged to do reddit giveaways/raffles?

i will probably be working on a POC using the random.org as a prng

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u/paganiforeverandever X5680 4.25GHz, 1080 Strix, 1200XP3 Jan 12 '16

Don't worry i always make people work for it!

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u/Th3oriesMan Jan 14 '16

New Post:

Keys in plain text on your giveaways

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u/Cow_In_Space cowinspace Feb 17 '16

I usually just remove some of the letters/numbers then stick some cryptic clues in a comment.

It avoids the bots and means that the winner get's a feeling of accomplishment.